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first time i see "fubar", is that a common expression on the industry? jsut curious (english is not my native language)


It is an old US military term that means “F*ked Up Beyond All Recognition”


FUBAR being a bit worse than SNAFU: "situation normal: all fucked up" which is the usual state of us-east-1


My favorite is JANFU: Joint Army-Navy Fuck-Up.


But you probably have seen the standard example variable names "foo" and "bar" which (together at least) come from `fubar`


Which are in fact unrelated.


Unclear. ‘Foo’ has a life and origin of its own and is well attested in MIT culture going back to the 1930s for sure, but it seems pretty likely that it’s counterpart ‘bar’ appears in connection with it as a comical allusion to FUBAR.


Foobar == "Fucked up beyond all recognition "

Even the acronym is fucked.

My favorite by a large margin...


Interestingly, it was "Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition" when it first appeared in print back towards the end of World War 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_slang_terms#F...

Not to be confused with "Foobar" which apparently originated at MIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar

TIL, an interesting footnote about "foo" there:

'During the United States v. Microsoft Corp. trial, evidence was presented that Microsoft had tried to use the Web Services Interoperability organization (WS-I) as a means to stifle competition, including e-mails in which top executives including Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer referred to the WS-I using the codename "foo".[13]'


What people would print and what soldiers would say in the 1940s were likely somewhat divergent.


100%


It used to be quite common but has fallen out of usage.


"FUBAR" comes up in the movie Saving Private Ryan. It's not a plot point, but it's used to illustrate the disconnect between one of the soldiers dragged from a rear position to the front line, and the combat veterans in his squad. If you haven't seen the movie, you should. The opening 20 minutes contains one of the most terrifying and intense combat sequences ever put to film.


Honestly not sure if this is a joke I'm not in on.

There are documented uses of FUBAR back into the '40s.


What do you mean? The movie storyline takes place in 44 at the Battle of Normandy.


I must've misread. I thought you said that it comes from the movie rather than comes up in the movie.


FUBAR: Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition

Somewhat common. Comes from the US military in WW2.


Yes, although it's military in origin.


Slightly off-topic from the article itself, but… does anyone else feel like Nature’s cookie banner just never goes away? I have vivid memories of trying to reject cookies multiple times, eventually giving up and accepting them just to get to the article only for the banner to show up again the next time I visit. I swear it’s giving me déjà vu every single visit.. Am I the only one experiencing this, or is this just how their site works?


Thank you. I'll give it a check.


That really resonates with me! I’ve found that when I’m up against a tricky problem, the solution often pops into my head when I’m not actively thinking about it—whether I’m sleeping, going for a walk, or just doing something completely different. It’s like the answer appears out of nowhere after I’ve stepped away.

I’ve always wondered why this happens. Is it just how our brains work in problem-solving mode? Does anyone know of any articles or studies that dive into this? I imagine it’s not just a programming thing, but a general part of solving complex problems.


Julian Jaynes[1] makes a pretty compelling argument that our unconscious mind does pretty much all of the heavy lifting with regards to problem-solving. The conscious mind just steers us and lets us remember what we are doing.

If I recall correctly an example he gives is looking at a math problem. Looking at 2+2 as an adult you instinctively know it to be 4. As a child you may have had to count on your fingers or write out the problem until the abstraction of numbers was solidified for you, and now it is just a black box that your unconscious has added to a "tool belt" of sorts.

For me I would describe the process of learning/problem solving as my conscious mind navigating some solution/problem space and figuring out the general shape of it. Once I have figured out the shape of the problem, the answer either:

1. Immediately looks like the shape of another, solved problem. In which case I just use that solution.

2. Is not immediately apparent.

In the case of #2 I just play around with different strategies that mostly don't work, but it helps me build a mental model of the problem. Then I wake up in the middle of the night with a solution, or figure it out while I am showering/eating/driving/etc.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in...


There must be a connection to how doctors advice to talk to (even unconscious) patients who survived a stroke: the brain of the patient is still actively receiving information and constantly rewires itself while trying to process the data over and over again. In case with a complex programming problem, the person itself is responsible for the 'feedback loop'. Like how you can't stop thinking about the problem under different angles. Thus no need for external stimulus. I'm guessing the best time for that kind of processing is when one is asleep because there is simply not much else for brain to do in that state. Plus, when asleep, some long-term memory mechanisms kick in which make the already processed data more accessible and easier to work with. If there are some studies explaining the why's, I bet the medical ones focusing on brain damage and long-term memory would be the most related.


I have that a lot. It seems my mind needs to try a lot of combinations and suddenly stumbles upon one that makes sense and a light lits up. Browsing through the code or reading the docs only tends to get in the way for that process.

There's the need for some noisy creativity to be able to try to match a lot of combinations including the non obvious ones, where the solution space is.


There is a free coursera course I am doing, where exactly this phenomenon is explained as diffuse vs focused thinking by neuroscientists.

Here is the link: https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn/


If you have not seen it I'd recommend watching Rich Hickey's talk on Hammock Driven Development: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84n5oFoZBc


Yeah this is me too - which is why I enjoy turn based games while I’m coding, if I get stuck I distract my consciousness with 2-3 turns in Civilisation and the answer pops into my head while I’m playing.

Turn based is excellent because always I’m mid-turn when the answer comes so I alt-tab out and keep going.

My steam shows some ridiculous number of hours in game because it’s always on, nearly 24/7, in a window on my monitor


I don't think I can only play 2-3 turns of Civilization at a time.


Not gonna lie developing that discipline was really difficult …


Very interesting. Any turn-based games you'd recommend for someone who's completely new to them? I have zero knowledge in that area but would love to try it out.


Try Civilisation, probably start with the current one - Civ 6

Then if you like it you can work your way backwards

If you like a more futuristic setting then Endless space 2. Or civilisation beyond earth is really fun to colonise another planet and research futuristic technology and alien biology.

If you like puzzle games with no time pressure SpaceChem.

These are my favs


Interesting. Do you have sources to read more about it?



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