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Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?


There are tons of limitations to what you can do with your property. E.g. you can own land but can't build a house if the land is not zoned for it. Even the meaning of property has changed over the centuries. It's no longer acceptable to own a human being, which was a contested idea not too long ago. It's the people that make a society that decide what they want the rules to be. Good for the people of Amsterdam that they don't accept man made "realities" on what can or can't be done.


If it's no longer acceptable to own a human being, that's going to be a problem for the gimp training and service industry in Amsterdam.

https://www.nobleprog.nl/en/gimp/training/amsterdam

>Gimp Training in Amsterdam

>Online or onsite, instructor-led live Gimp training courses demonstrate through interactive discussion and hands-on practice the fundamentals and advanced topics of Gimp and Gimpshop.

>Gimp training is available as "online live training" or "onsite live training". Online live training (aka "remote live training") is carried out by way of an interactive, remote desktop. Onsite live Gimp training can be carried out locally on customer premises in Amsterdam or in NobleProg corporate training centers in Amsterdam.

https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/ShowUserReviews-g188590-d1491...

>Different and enjoyable, but expensive

>Travelled to the Supper Club with my girlfriend and we had a great time. Waiters in gimp suits, rubber gloves upon arrival and comfy beds to lounge on while we ate, created a unique experience.


I'm pretty sure the waiters are paid competitive rates and are free to seek other employment. So comparing them to literal slaves is disingenuous.


But they're working for people, doing what they might not want to on their own free time! Slavery!

I dislike how some diminish this term, with such frivolous complaints. Yes, surely the waiters were hobbled. Or beaten to death. Or starved, worked 18 hour days, etc.

Totally similar!


I think those are two very different types of gimps.


They use AirBnD instead.


Mix ups like this are why I don't mention my experience with the GNU Image Manipulation Program[1] offline.

[1] https://www.gimp.org/


Yeah! If a landlord wants to put up tourists in leaky slum houses for €250 a night that should be their right! It's their own fault for trusting an online advert, right?

Hotels have rules, regulations and need to be inspected according to hotel rules in terms of safety, hygiene and price rules. Rentals have rules and regulations related to basic standards of living, pricing, and again, safety and hygiene.

Airbnb allowed landlords to rent out substandard temporary housing, skirting around laws covering both hotels and rentals as well as relevant taxes. In part, they are responsible for the housing crisis.


The owners still decide what to do with it. They just decided to stop listing their apartments because now it's very conspicuous that they are breaking the law by not paying taxes, having proper insurance, safety conditions, etc. for such an endeavor. The ones who were operating legally still advertise their listings.


Ownership isn't freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want, this is a first grade take on the topic.

Laws are voted for the interest of the community (ie. country) by elected officials (elected by the people), ownership, freedoms, &c. exist within these boundaries, or as a smart person put it a long time ago: "Obedience to the law one has prescribed for oneself is freedom". It's always a battle of individual gains vs collective good, if we wanted to live like egoists cavemen we wouldn't have build organised societies.


I might have more sympathy for the flat owners if they:

- had proper insurance on their properties to protect the guests

- maintained the property according to the health and safety guidelines proscribed by law

- had a license for their business activity

- paid the appropriate taxes for this additional income


The problem is that the locals cannot find housing themselves. Laws like this protect the common people of Amsterdam at the expense of the flat owners inalienable right to exploit them


Yea... who are the neighbors of those flats to decide to protest loud and rude tourists that disturb the piece and quiet of their homes, eh?


Exactly. Flat owners can't privatize their gains while their socialized their costs. If a factory pollutes, we agreed that it should pay for the damage and control it. Why it is so difficult to understand that we just want the externalities from Airbnb to be addressed?


We already have laws against that.


And now we have a new law, I'm sure people were upset about the night time disturbances laws too


> Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

How do you spell "externalities"?


So you'd have no problem if your neighbours turned their flat into a brothel and a meth lab? Because that's the logical extension of your argument.


I'd have the exact same problem if the owner of the flat turned into a meth lab (or throwing loud parties or whatever) did pay all the taxes.


We have planning, zoning and safety laws for a reason. The owners of a flat can decide to do what they like within those parameters.


A flat owner is not an atomic actor. If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it.

I live in Sweden and most "condo" associations (bostadsrätt) have rules regarding short-term hires and subletting. I imagine it is the same in the Netherlands.


> I live in Sweden and most "condo" associations (bostadsrätt) have rules regarding short-term hires and subletting.

I don't know why you're using Sweden as a 'good' example of democratic control of Airbnb: the opposite is actually true, where the authorities are very well-disposed to people hiring-out their apartments, and see it as an opportunity to get more tourists visiting locations in Sweden[0] From the article in the citation:

"Politicians in Copenhagen want to introduce a maximum limit of 60 rental days per year via Airbnb - but Stockholm is choosing a different path and continues to welcome private rentals via the US giant. According to statistics from Airbnb, there are now over 3,600 listed homes actively offered as tourist accommodation in Stockholm."

In that article there are officials saying the same as you - that local restrictions put some sort of 'natural' limit on the number of Airbnb apartments - but the reality is that for people working here in Stockholm and trying to find an apartment to rent, the only option has now become Airbnb or the black-market in rented accommodation - effectively pricing normal people out of the market altogether.

As for these supposed restrictions on hiring-out apartments that are in the 'rulebook' of a house, it's perfectly easy to circumvent them. In my house in central Stockholm it's forbidden, but I often meet small groups of Italians, Spaniards or other obvious tourists coming and going in the communal areas of the house, and looking very sheepish at being seen - very obviously hiring an apartment illegally.

[0] In swedish: https://www.svd.se/stockholm-gar-emot-airbnb-trenden-inget-p...



If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it

I also live in Sweden and that is a very Sweden specific assumption. Even just across the border in Norway that assumption doesn't hold.

Sweden on the whole is very anti small private landlords and have lots of laws making it basically impossible to make money by buying a few flats and renting them out, but that is also a pretty uniquely Swedish take on the property market.


> Sweden on the whole is very anti small private landlords and have lots of laws making it basically impossible to make money by buying a few flats and renting them out, but that is also a pretty uniquely Swedish take on the property market.

This is an extremely idealized version of the real situation - at least in Stockholm. Here, the only real cap on the number of apartments being bought for (often illegal) hire, is the spiralling cost of real estate. Many of my colleagues rent their apartments on the black market - which is often the only way to get a home within the city.

Official rental apartments generally have a waiting-list of around 20 years within the city-limits, and even needing to commute from far out in the suburbs a newly-arrived person will probably need to rent on the black-market. This is a well-known and documented situation.

Airbnb has definitely made the situation much worse in Stockholm - the supposed '3600' apartments are actually far greater in number, as can be seen if one switches off location-permissions in your browser, and take a look at available rentals in the area.


You're of course right. I should have written that Swedish law is very anti small private landlords and that legally making money by buying a couple of flats and renting them out is basically impossible.

In fact when I moved back to Sweden after working abroad for a few years after University I spend the first 18 month living in a illegally rented flat, so I'm painfully aware of how the system works in real life.


So how is there housing for people to rent? Does the government build and maintain all rental property?


You’d usually rent from someone owning an entire building. Usually a company but sometimes an individual.


No, there are private and council-owned landlords.


Can you explain more? That still sounds like you are able to "make money by buying a few flats and renting them out" but with extra steps.


Expanding on 'dawg, it's generally only profitable to rent if you're a company devoted only to renting, and the regulatory regime punishes the landlord with only a few units. This is because rents are not market-based, but instead are based on "use value" (bruksvärde). A 19th C apartment in the middle of the city can theoretically be worth "less" from a rental perspective than a newly built apartment in the suburbs.

Any annual rent increases are set via a form of collective bargaining, and if a landlord charges more, the renter is entitled to their money back.

The upshot of this is that it's much more profitable to buy a rental building and flip it to the renters via a bostadsrättsförening (a bit like a condo) or to only build to sell.


No, the landlords in these cases own the whole building, not just a few flats. If you own the whole building then you can of course rent out the flats in that building. But if you just own a couple of flats in the building, then you generally cannot easily rent them out.


Thanks for expanding, I do admit writing from a parochial perspective.


In the UK at least, the expectation would be 50/50 that you are buying to let.

However, a six month minimum rental period is very different from having new neighbors every weekend.


> it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it.

Says who? This is a rather bold assumption to make and does not have any connection with the reality in most of the world.


My comments were made from my experience as a renter and condo owner in Stockholm, Sweden. I did speculate that similar norms were present in the Netherlands, but I must confess I have not studied the issue deeply.


>If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption

There might be such implicit assumption somewhere, but it for sure isn't a general one.

I for one don't have any such expectations regarding the neighbours in my condo. (I don't live in Sweden/Netherlands though.)


I, for one, am renting, so if my neighbors expected my landlord would live at the flat with his family - then my wife, my newborn son and I are certainly failing to meet their implicit assumptions.


If those workers stand their ground the mandate can be delayed forever. It will be interesting to see what the regime does next.


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“Please” and “mandate” are contradictions. Which is it?

I would recommend that people get themselves vaccinated, yes. Any politician who advocates for a mandate should be voted out of office and blacklisted from ever being elected again.


Just a reminder to anyone reading this.

Medical consent is your right. And you have the right to say no to any medical procedure for any reason.


A health-care worker who has recovered from Covid has sterilizing immunity that prevents both infection and transmission.

Vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission, and their effective protection against serious illness decreases monthly.


If the "vaccines" lose protection, doesn't that make them an anti-viral drug and not a vaccine?


Excellent question, but definitions and headlines have been malleable over the last year, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZMtSPX3iE


They are vaccines in the sense they stimulate the immune system to fight the virus, but are weaker than traditional vaccines. It is pretty clear by now that VE against infection rapidly fades over time (6-12 months), say goodbye to herd immunity. There are encouraging epi and B cell studies that indicate VE against severe infection holds, but it's still relatively early in the pandemic. We lack long term data plus virus mutations are a risk factor. Hope for the best, but be cautious of premature victory proclamations.


No, why would it?


Alternatively, inform yourself and take a conscious and thoughtful decision using the information at your disposal. Don’t let others (especially the government) push you around to take or not take the vaccine.


Scientists are the ones telling people. Not governments.


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If you continue to create accounts to break HN's guidelines with, we will ban your main account as well. No more of this please.


Because features in software don’t exist until someone adds them.


this is a really underrated comment. there's always a lot of entitlement when it comes to software. why doesn't x have y?

...because x doesn't have y yet....this stuff doesn't build itself, and it certainly doesn't get built overnight.


It’s pretty overrated really (even if grey). Mature projects and PMs treat submitted code as liabilities to be maintained, not free benefits. And every project is at the whims of its maintainer, who can absolutely reject any contribution they wish.

To suggest generics weren’t here sooner because no one wanted to make the pull request it is just dumb.


if someone's off on some tangent implementing a major feature without coordinating with the project maintainers and it subsequently gets rejected because it doesn't fit the constraints that they've stated for the feature...that's on them.

the go project is pretty upfront with how they go about deciding what will/wont get into the project, what process to follow, etc.

Posing it as "why doesn't go have generics" is bound to be reductionist, because it's too coarse of a question, and any real implementation winds up having a lot of nuance.

the question winds up just sounding entitled and petulant though, so if someone can't be bothered to ask a well informed question about why go doesn't have generics yet, the best answer really is "because it hasn't been added.", tautological as it may be.


In some countries something like this has been mandatory for a long time.

In Germany and its lapdog Austria there’s the mandatory impressum: fully doxxed whether you want it or not.

In Spain if you handle a database with personal information (like a forum or a blog where people can leave their email addresses along with comments) you also have to put all your data somewhere in the page so people can contact you to have themselves removed.

But hey we have cookie banners at least!


> In Germany and its lapdog Austria there’s the mandatory impressum: fully doxxed whether you want it or not.

At least in Germany, that’s only for commercial sites. If you’re not monetizing your site in any way (ads count) you don’t need an imprint.


>In Germany and its lapdog Austria there’s the mandatory impressum: fully doxxed whether you want it or not.

Yep, the big eye-opener for me was when that Austrian politician complained about being "harassed" by someone calling her a "corrupt traitor" on Facebook, so the Austrian authorities got involved and the person behind that account got doxxed and charged with libel. Unreal.

In Austria/Germany the freedom of speech is only free until it impacts the elite. Then you get the book thrown at you.


Austria has a public registry of addresses of all people living in the country.


Apologising for something that happened decades ago when those responsible are no longer working and most of them are dead? Well that’s got to be easy.


And yet it happens so little. See: Turkey, Armenian Genocide


They could also host these on their own website, but of course that doesn’t sound as flashy.

We are subject to American Puritanism because Europe has failed time and time again to create competitive social networks because of regulations and scarce access to capital. Better complain about that.


Silicon Valley has the first-mover advantage in social networks and pretty much all other sectors in IT technology. Competitors in Europe only exist because of niches, sometimes created by regulation and mostly by cultural differences. However, the (mostly) laissez-faire approach to access to information makes it difficult to put constraints on social networks. China managed to do so thanks to their Great Firewall. The GDPR is too little, too late, and the public is too used now to scatter factoids about their private lives on the internet.


Is this the guy who put crypto in Signal?


They rewrote the entire interface of chrome in JavaScript with obvious consequences.


Automattic, the makers of Wordpress, have a free and very powerful cache plugin.


It's just not the fastest cache plugin (at least by name)


It's "good enough", in my experience, and works on nginx and Apache with minimal configuration.

Some plugins break it and the object cache leaves a lot to be desired but for a basic wordpress you can pretty much activate it and forget it.


They were probably trying to post spam and thought your search bar was a comment input field.


Could be, but usually bots that post spam include some form of link, not just keywords. The link is the entire point of posting spam.

There also seems to be a few distinct bots doing this, with distinct user agents (but bots with the same UA spam-search on the same topic out of epharma, casino, warez).

I also have another, identical search box in another part of the site and it has never seen any sort of spam bots.


I wonder if these are attempts to drive up the “interest” metric, with the hypothesis that the more search for a specific string, the result that is exact match gets higher ranking?


Could definitely be something along those lines. Discovering all this black hat SEO stuff and what they are doing to manipulate search engines has been one of the great joys of this project.

Nobody seems to write much about it, maybe because they don't want to give people ideas, but it's an endlessly fascinating subject.


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