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This would be a $1000 custom part in a Miele appliance though.


This. My miele door closed detector sensor broke. The part was 700 euros


Engineers use their ingenuity. That’s it.

If physical engineers understood everything then standards would not have changed in many decades. Safety factors would be mostly unnecessary. Clearly not the case.


>> Engineers use their ingenuity. That’s it.

If this was enough all novel creation would be engineering and that's clearly not true. Engineering attempts to discover & understand consistent outcomes when a myriad of variables are altered, and the boundaries where the variables exceed a model's predictive powers - then add buffer for the unknown. Manipulating prompts (and much of software development) attempts to control the model to limit the number of variables to obtain some form of useful abstraction. Physical engineering can't do this.


Maybe we could keep the conversation out of the gutter.


Porn is taxable income, not the gutter.


You don’t really see much porn in the gutters these days with the decline in popularity of print publishing. It’s almost all online now


It reads like a sales call where they’re getting customer pushback and responding with something quantitative - not a good opener at all, especially for this audience. The GPT tone pushes it over the edge.

What they built looks great and I don’t disagree with their take in substance, but you get one chance to make your open source announcement good - don’t blow it like this.


I very much dislike the way this article blurs religious and doomsday thinking with conspiracy theory thinking. There’s nobody conspiring on the other side of AGI. Other than that it makes many good observations.


Isn’t this a counter factual that can’t be proved? How do you know it won’t deter other companies?


The thread is not about other companies. It's about Apple, and they can eat a one-time $2B fine for breakfast without even noticing it. It's not much of a deterrence. I'll be convinced the law has teeth when they're fined $2B daily until they take corrective action.


What would you recommend instead?


For security-critical or sensitive situations, auditability should be a requirement. That implies access to source code and capabilty to build it.

Decisions like these need to be done from first principles. SharePoint shouldn't even have been a contender here if looked at seriously. Do your own homework.


Think you answered just about everything except the question asked


I think this guy wants OpenBSD running on a POWER-based Mainframe at every governmental organization.


Well, if you can't manage text emails with BSD mailx from the CLI, you probably shouldn't be working on nuclear weapons in the first place...


> For security-critical or sensitive situations, auditability should be a requirement. That implies access to source code and capabilty to build it.

Vendors can be accountable without providing source code, for example through contracts specifying performance.

I don't know how large Sharepoint's source is, though it has many components and I assume there is quite a bit of code. Auditing the source code of something like Microsoft Office seems almost impossible.

> first principles.

What does that mean in this context?


Doesn't Microsoft have government programs that grant source code access for products like Windows and (probably) SharePoint?


Yes I think that’s what it is - only the writing on the map uses a horizontal baseline whereas the real script uses a sloping baseline so it looks weird here.


Being able to give a good speech is merit when the goal is to select a leader.


Strongly disagree, in the age of teleprompters and speech writers this is a major part of campaigns (because of TV) but hardly matters at all for actual governing. Our excessive focus on it is not helping us select better leaders.


I used to think that, before 2016. Apparently, incoherent rambling is also a successful strategy.


Harlan McCraney, Presidential Speechalist (2004) https://vimeo.com/90583017


Initial debates usually feature all serious candidates anyhow. Advertisement aka propaganda draws a line for me.


Where do you guys get this nonsense from? Is there some sort of conspiracy theory factory? Do you have any idea how the rest of the world behaved during this time period? You are aware that the Muslims literally had multiple empires?


No no, the ottoman empire was also obviously the fault of the west. The ongoing genocide in Sudan too.


Sudan is a terrible example for your argument as it's practically a textbook example of Western colonialism, maintained by divide and conquer, and leaving a horrific mess when they wash their hands of the place.


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