What did you first order at the bar? Did it burn? Did you become a teetotaler?

Latecomers lack the hundreds of iterations and the experience that comes with it. The senses haven't been trained.

There's a business here. Not one I want to be in, or one without major ethical drag, but a viable one. Fend off extinction, get fit.

with all the potential vulnerabilities of 400 npm dependencies (I'm guessing. It's probably higher)

We don't need security. We already know your age and who you are. /s

And the viewpoint is from the development of such "product" with "manufactured virality".

It's bunk.

Nobody is saying they're ready for production in 30 minutes, just that there is something real where an idea used to be.

Something much closer to production SDLC patterns than a Figma mockup.

People love to say such things, but actual behaviors are more complex than that.

Twitter is gone. X is a facet of an aggregate technology that is ultimately self-serving. It should die. "Like a dog..."

Take a look at a Sam's Club or Costco. The Windows PCs from Dell, HP, Lenovo outnumber the Macs 4:1 or more.

I have never seen a shopper testing out the wares.

I think it depends where you are, at least for Costco.

Until you try to leave with your data.

They just announced GA of agentic assignees. It suggests a year or more of maturation. Rovo Dev has already been a thing.

The Java products are almost EOL.

They have already been assigning JAC tickets to Rovo and $TEAM is down.

What else should be done with the surplus headcount?

My point exactly. This implies atlassian is not a healthy growing business, but a stagnant or even shrinking one.

Layoffs have little to do with AI, and more akin to fuel being jettisoned to stay in the air longer.

Must a business grow to be healthy? What about stability and longevity?

Prioritization and workforce realignment. Old hat.

Replacing headcount with technology? Also old hat.

If the cuts ate into the good parts of the business, I will worry. I doubt that happened.

Can someone fix the damn Slack plugin so it stops asking me to turn it on every time someone posts a Jira link? I have dozens of messages from the plugin saying "Got it! Will not ask you again."

Are you making the argument that Atlassian’s products are basically done, no more development needed?

Right! There is more performance to be taken away yet! They're nearly there but plenty is left. Jira can be made "let's go brew coffee and come back" slow if the really tried

The Java ones have been done since version 6 or so. We’re up to what, 11?

Stagnant, yes. Mature also.

It really is slop isn’t it.