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The question nobody asks, is what will happen once atrophy kicks in and nobody is able fire fight production genAI isn't able to fix without making things worse, with broke system bleeding a million dollars per day or more.

It's at least possible that we would eventually do a rollback to status quo and swear to never devalue human knowledge of the problems we solve.


> swear to never devalue human knowledge of the problems we solve.

Love this way of putting it. I hate that we can mostly agree that devaluing expertise of artists or musicians is bad, but that devaluing the experience of software engineers is perfectly fine, and actually preferable. Doing so will have negative downstream effects.


There certainly are many who create a bit more PR. Ai generated. So they can roll their thumb for most of the day.

I confirm less hiring and those who do throw more difficult leetcode challenges than ever. The kind of challenge impossible to solve in time without an LLM doing the most part.

And that "ah sometimes" costs what? Not forgetting you are also paying for tokens.

It's a bit like eating junk food everyday and ah sometimes I go see the doctor he keep saying I should eat more healthy and lose some weight.


The difference being that Airlines and food delivery did make a profit, just figured they had to do these tricks to earn some more. Mature businesses resort to lowering quality, fake scarcity.

Here the scarcity is real, and profits are nowhere to be seen

These schemes will soon fall apart entirely when an open weight model can run on Groq/Cerebras/SambaNova at even higher speeds and be just fine for all tasks. Arguably already the case, but not many know yet.


Isn't it what "evaluating a model where they can get a % of your business in exchange for letting you use code generated by their AI models" precisely mean?

If they find that this business model is most profitable for OpenAI, and that they can somehow release models better than any competitor, wouldn't they say they want royalties ? That's what Unity (the game engine) does so it wouldn't be unseen.


Economists are obsessed with numbers even when numbers simply contradicts numbers they aren't familiar with.

Incorporating sociology, for what it's worth would radically change the picture. Do economists travel? And what is a poor country anyway.. Zimbabwe is put on the same table as south east Asian countries..where do geopolitical aspects get into considerations for countries like Cuba or more recently Venezuela or Iran. Do these things even matter.

No surprise economists have lost legitimity for so many. They don't predict or diagnose the economy of the nations they live in, trying to explain what they call the "global south" as some call it is rather arrogant.

What this research may have got right is to nuance what their predecessor had claimed. But that wasn't too hard.

My tip for economists: go live in rural areas in each country you claim to diagnose. Speak to the locals, grand ma can tell you what it cost to get clean water just a few decades ago vs now. Maybe you will start to understand what poverty even means.


What's your point on Zimbabwe being put on the same table as south east Asian countries?

The point is the drastic difference in level of development for a set of different countries in different region. Each nation faces different challenges.

IPO and quarterly demand for profit.

Gitlab was generous first, to rise as a valid alternative to GitHub. They never got the comminity aspect right, perhaps aiming for profitability with a focus on the runners instances which is how they make money.

With profitability, the IPO made sense.

GitHub probably had a different strategy..keep it generous, get the entire open source community, keep raising money and one day someone will buys us out for billions. We we are, Microsoft goal is to capture the community, it works. It's sticky.


Codeberg is a nonprofit community project aiming to replicate that. You can use it today.

I've used it, it's great, more like what GitHub was meant to be.

There is Forgejo. I find it more stable, I self host that. It never suffered an outage in 2 years that I had it running and is faster than GitHub.


Codeberg is a public instance of the Forgejo software, which you can also host yourself.

Just me or does sit well to monetize _mostly_ off the core benefits of an open source application?

Can't be easy to build a GUI on top, but I'm sure a 10% revenue to be redistributed to the hero behind jj would go a long way. Would also pay off.


There is nothing about neither the licensing of jj or the spirit of open source that stigmatizes this.

Nothing against, I agree.

The hero behind jj is employed by Google afaik, so we're good.

10% revenue to google?

While the primary maintainer is a Google employee, the majority of commits and committers are not. It's decidedly not a Google project.

I mean the Google CLA kind of says otherwise.

Fair point, I thought it had been eliminated, but apparently that is pending the adoption of the project by a foundation such as Apache or the Linux foundation.

Touché

It's euphoria at this stage.

Ads from the World Gold Council are becoming very frequent, targeting consumers. That must mean something (looking for exit liquidity)


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