This is a very cool idea. I’ve been dragging CC around very large code bases with a lot of docs and stuff. it does great but can be a swing and a miss.. have been wondering if there is a more efficient / effective way. This got me thinking. Thanks for sharing!

also my experience in using these two models. they are trying to recover from oversteer perhaps.

Don’t stress, its very likely that this problem was vibe coded :) It’s insane how much better Claude Code is compared to alternatives lately.

Great point here, the only thing that feels greedy to me is that these larger companies do not contribute back to the foundational libraries that they are building on, even to a minor extent for ecosystem improvements. Perhaps greedy is a strong word.

i’ve always felt that oss licenses needs to include responsible use terms or something. some orgs dont mind paying for value contributed but you need to provide a structure to do so, even if that is on a voluntary basis.

If anyone from Lovable etc sees these comments, great opportunity for sponsorship where it can make a difference upstream.

Some companies have done this well, at a stage Retool use to sponsor a number of open source libs which greatly helped them with exposure to devs. Surely a better way to spend ad revenue imo.

Please let us know if you launch this open source project, we’d all be excited to use it!

Same here, would love to share experiences. From South Africa.

I’m surprised no one mentions Knex. By far my childhood favorite, and for me, far more creative opportunity when comparing to something like lego.

Yes! K’NEX [1] is based on spatial geometry. You connect plastic rods of different lengths into star-shaped connectors. This creates a "skeleton" or wireframe structure. It is much better than LEGO for building large-scale, open-air structures like roller coasters, Ferris wheels, and bridges. It is superior for kinetic builds. Interestingly, K’NEX has released "K’NEX Bricks" in the past that are compatible with LEGO studs, and some modern K’NEX sets include brick-compatible parts.

[1] https://www.basicfun.com/knex/

Now we finally know where the LLMs learned this style:

> K’NEX isn’t just a building toy—it’s a gateway to limitless creativity!

Haha! Great catch. That specific structure ... "It’s not just a [Product], it’s a [Experience/Metaphor]!" ... is a classic trope of mid-to-late 20th-century American advertising. This style exploded during the "Creative Revolution" of advertising (1960s–1980s). Agencies like Doyle Dane Bernbach (DDB) began moving away from "reason-why" copy (which listed technical specs) toward emotional copy. So it is kind of a time capsule, like a website from the 90's. In professional copywriting, this is called Feature-to-Benefit Transformation. In classical rhetoric, this is a form of Correctio - when a speaker replaces a word or a description with a more powerful one to emphasize a point.

I still think of Capsela a lot. That's my weird pick. Weird spheres that had gears and motors and things. It wasn't fancy, I didn't do that many incredible things with it (vs my LEGOs) but wow, still hits as a very special kind of toy, just because it was the only one that actually did things.

It all depends on how you prompt. and the prompt system you’ve setup.. when done well, you just “steer” the code /system. Quite amazing to see it come together. But there are multiple layers to this.

As per other comments, if it’s making them money, why bother banning it

have to disagree. maybe read a paragraph, its dense with context imo. i find slop to be light on context and wordy, this is not.