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To take the rbg metaphor further, it should really be a "gamut" rather than a "spectrum".

"Spectrum" works too in that if you take white light and split it in a prism, it is spread out into its separate but overlapping components of light at different wavelengths.

Good luck finding magenta there. RGB is not modeling the monochromatic light spectrum.

Perhaps "big ball of mud"? "mess"? "cluster f*k"?

Arguing relevant metaphors in HN?! A new low...


If this is a new low, that's news to me.

The top comment chain on the front page 'Plane crashed after 3D-printed part collapsed' is nothing more than arguing about metaphors. This happens all the time in just about every story.


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Yeah, I think I generally agree with the sentiment about the Serbian government but the hyperbole really ruins the argument.

I do care what they spend my subscription money on if it's not about providing a good service. The cost of this place is probably a drop in the ocean in terms of their income, but it does feel like it's yet another distraction from their core services.

Every company in the world does things like this, why do people get upset that Kagi does it as well? Don't you think your local supermarket or electrical company spends money outside of their core business? We're soon in December, when companies will invite their employees to Christmas dinners and other holiday events.

Because a lot of people want Kagi to succeed because they want to keep using the service. So people care if they make bad business decisions that might threaten their long-term success. Compare to, say, Fastmail, who won similar mindshare under similar market circumstances, and who never attempted to enter the real estate business.

That said, this isn't as crazy of an idea as it sounds from the headline. Kagi says they are "remote-first", so the main beneficiary of this real estate is meant to be Kagi and their employees. The idea to open up some of the office space for Kagi customers to reserve is novel but not completely ridiculous either. I can see it working out well as a marketing tool.


> but it does feel like it's yet another distraction from their core services.

It is basically marketing. I am not sure everyone would call that a distraction if it gives kagi more visibility and thus, customers and revenues to spend on r&d.

Belgrade is a good place to test if that marketing works. It is a tech hub, which means higher probability to get new kagi subsribers, and it is not too expensive as a place to do an experiment. If they realize the ratio between money spent on this coworking space vs customer gained in that area in a year is not in their favor they can easily not renew their rent and shut it off.


Out of curiosity what makes Belgrade a tech hub moreso than other capitals with similar population and HDI?

Belgrade, historically, was a "gateway between East and West" and in some ways it still is: as a non-EU member in Europe it has access to a broader range of markets than a lot of other cities. I think recently, the wave of Russian tech workers fleeing Russia has also elevated its "tech hub" status.

> Russian tech workers fleeing Russia has also elevated its "tech hub" status.

Fleeing as in seeking asylum? Or fleeing as in sanctions? If the latter, besides the Slavic nations, I'd have thought Germany, the UAE, Israel, and Canada to be more popular?


Like in avoiding participation and being worried about future, speaking as Russian Kagi user from Belgrade.

Most popular places to move I guess are Georgia(365 daya visa-free, easy to reach), Serbia, UAE, Cyprus, Poland.


The UAE has an awful climate. Germany is in the EU, with all of its drawbacks. Canada is far away and expensive. (But yes, these are popular.)

Fleeing as in "I don't want to die in Putin's war". I've heard from friends that it's actually becoming an issue with locals there (the overwhelming number of Russians who have moved there) to the point where it's beginning to strain the relationship between Russia and Serbia, who have historically been very closely aligned.

My impression is that b/c they're non-EU they've retained a lot more local talent. By contrast, any half decent programmer in Croatia has a very strong incentive to get a job in Germany and make a much higher salary

But is their service suffering for it? Is it getting worse? For me, it is not. So I don't care. Take my money, Kagi!

if they can go around burning money on vanity projects, maybe that means they're charging me too much !

This is not any kind of admission about phone sizes. This is an "exclusive" tie-in with a high fashion brand, nothing more.


I wonder about the idea that they're less expensive. True in terms of materials, but possibly not true if the smaller production run means you can't offset the capital costs of manufacturing the parts.


That's fair. I suspect that as phones get more "premium" the margin from a small phone shrinks faster than a larger phone.

HTC has been making cheap (very cheap) and small phones for the discount market. Foldables exist in the premium space, but the price tags appear to bake in a higher margin for a device that won't sell the same volume.


I get you're referring to the profitability, but the iPhone Air is just thin, not small, which is where this conversation started.


I bought a Pro Max for myself and an Air for my wife, who had a Mini before.

The Air is DAMN SMALL. You really should try holding it. Yes the 2D dimensions are as large as a normal modern phone but it’s hardly there otherwise. It’s a good compromise.

I’d want it myself but I shoot ProRes Video.


The issue is the 2D footprint compared to older models like the iPhone SE and iPhone 13 Mini. The iPhone Air is still significantly larger.


> Yes the 2D dimensions are as large as a normal modern phone but it’s hardly there otherwise.

The 2D dimensions are literally the only thing I care about. I'm going to barely notice the weight difference. The actual thickness is a lie with the giant camera hump.

What I do care about is whether I can operate it single-handedly: I want my thumb to reach the top of the screen (so I can drag down the notification bar and click nav stuff) while the bottom of the phone is resting on my pinky. I could easily do that on my Galaxy S III Mini, it was comfortable with my Moto G 2, it was just about doable with my Nokia 6.1 - and it is impossible with my Pixel 7. At no point did I I actively look for a larger phone: going for a larger model has always been an unavoidable compromise.


It's entirely about the 2D space in terms of being able to easily hold it in one hand and reach the whole screen, as well as other things like how it fits into pockets. I have large hands and an iPhone 13 mini, and it still feels too big for me to use comfortably with one hand.


Based on sales of the air, it won’t be around in future years.


These are much better examples.


I've managed to get around that by returning to my Nikon FM2. People react quite differently when it's clearly a film camera - even better if it's a medium format camera. That also gets around the nagging feeling that you're being guided in what you're taking by how it will appear online too. I don't have any social media accounts aside from HN and a BlueSky account that tweets the diary entries of an 18th century naturalist so I have no motivation to think about that side of things. It's a lovely feeling of my work being private because I can't be tempted in the moment to share a photo online. It feels much healthier.


The best is making albums with numbered tissue paper silhouettes and the peoples names written on the back with a blurb and the date.

>It's a lovely feeling of my work being private because I can't be tempted in the moment to share a photo online. It feels much healthier.

I find people like it a lot and even give me contact info to get the picture I took of them which is cool.


Heh I’ve often daydreamed of one day setting up a darkroom and buying a couple medium format cameras, I wondered if that would be disarming enough (I love medium format and TLRs).

Can’t do it while I’m renting, but maybe one day!


Consider doing a hybrid workflow. The equipment for developing film is quite compact. I keep all of my film development chemicals and equipment stored in a small tupperware under the bathroom sink. You can also buy a lightproof bag, so you don't even need a light tight room to load the film.

The second half of my process is to "scan" my film using a macro lens and my DSLR. It takes about 2 hours to go from exposed film to developed and scanned film. Only about 30 minutes of that time is active, most of it is waiting for the film to dry since I don't have a drying a cabinet.


Go for it anyway! I have a small NYC apt and fit everything I need for darkroom development into a small crate. I can scan negatives with a small setup here, but do have to go to a community darkroom for enlarger printing.


Can you give a source for the claim of "extensive sexual misconduct"? I've seen allegations of bullying, which is clearly bad enough, but nothing sexual.


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