> I am talking about not only job shortages but also general humbling of the bloated egos.

I'm gonna give you the benefit for the doubt here. Most of us do not dislike genAI because we were fired or "humbled". Most of us dislike it because a) the terrible environmental impacts, b) the terrible economic impacts, and c) the general non-production-readiness of results once you get past common, well-solved problems

Your stated understanding comes off a little bit like "they just don't like it because they're jealous".

I think this is the ideal direction mainly because a lot of the webs current tech problems stem from websites that don't need app-level features using them. I was in web dev at the advent of SPA-style navigation and understand why everyone switched to it, but at the same time I feel like it's the source of many if not most bugs an performance issues that frustrate the average user.

For what it's worth, a lot of the crowd who used to want to but we're hamstrung by the garbage support for games on Linux are now actually switching since Steam has essentially made it "just work" via Proton. The final real blocker for many people is finally gone this iteration of the cycle.

I myself have fully switched to Endeavor for my personal desktop, though I still use a MacBook for work (as I have for 17 years now, if you include college). It's been a surprisingly seamless experience, I highly recommend it over Ubuntu-based distributions, especially for Steam (I was a former Mint adherent but the general stability has gone way downhill).

Did you make it clear that you weren't submitting to the leaderboards? I of course assume you weren't.

Most of the hubbub I saw was because AI code making it into those leaderboards very clearly violates the spirit of competition.

It's quite foolish of you to make that assumption. To begin with, with my timezone and when I could get to it, I was starting 12 hrs after the release so the leaderboard was useless. I was writing about it openly on the internet, pointing out the huddles I faced and how much effort it took to get the LLM to generate the correct solutions.

> it's quite foolish of you to make that assumption

To have assumed that you didn't submit to the leaderboard? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt on not ruining the competition for everyone else. You can do whatever you want on your own time.

If you were submitting, despite as I recall AOC specifically saying not to submit ai solutions, then you know exactly why people were upset. If you weren't, them you're being aggressive at me for no reason.

> if AI fails to deliver, it fails to deliver for everyone and the people that bought into the hype can blame the consultants / whatever.

Understatement of the year. At this point, if AI fails to deliver, the US economy is going to crash. That would not be the case if executives hadn't bought in so hard earlier on.

Race to "Too big to fail" on hype and your losses are socialized

And if it does deliver, everyone's gonna be out of a job and the US economy is also going to crash.

Nice cul-de-sac our techbro leaders have navigated us into.

Yep, either way things are going to suck for ordinary people.

My country has had bad economy and high unemployment for years, even though rest of the world is doing mostly OK. I'm scared to think what will happen once AI bubble either bursts or eats most white collar jobs left here.

There’s also a case that without the AI rush, US economy would look even weaker now.

I would amend the idea to include artifacts that suggest people activity and wildlife that can easily be personified

Have you just been trolling this thread for a few hours posting this copypasta to anyone who thinks not having bathroom doors is gross? This is the third or fourth one of these I've seen, and that's a pretty weird battle to fight, is all I'm saying.

Oh, I agree that bathroom doors are great. And it's "gross" not to have them. Yes.

It's just that I don't believe they contribute to hygiene or health.

Absolutely. They have dramatically worsened the world, with little to no net positive impact. Nearly every (if not all) positive impacts have an associated negative that that dwarfs it.

LLMs aren't going anywhere, but the world would be a better place if they hadn't been developed. Even if they had more positive impacts, those would not outweigh the massive environmental degradation they are causing or the massive disincentive they created against researching other, more useful forms of AI.

LLM's to me sound like a "boiling the ocean" kind of approach to solving a problem.

It is, Amazon in particular is famous for this. It's a big part of the ride of "business source licenses" (see recent hububs around redis and hashicorp)

And Elastic: https://www.elastic.co/elasticsearch/opensearch

The brain does not fully develop until 25, 18 is simply one of many thresholds where we've decided (in the US) to start officially transitioning children into adulthood. Others include 14-16 (driving), 21 (drinking), and 25 (car rental).

So if 17 can't be called a child, what can? You have to draw the completely arbitrary like somewhere. Do you chose the legal 18 (in the US)? The Hebrew 13? Some other metric?

25. You said it yourself