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Just thinking about the day-to-day elevated stress that this would generate makes me glad I will never live in a place like that. It is weird to read people trying to downplay it as if it is nothing.


The "not caring" aspect has been a problem in the US for a long time.


Same in Canada. I worry that we’ve become too comfortable and will need to be reminded why it’s important to care.

In the defence of people who don’t care right now, our culture is not conducive to caring whereas it seems it was more so in the past. There was more social and family cohesion. There were more readily available evidence and reasons to care on a day to day basis. Things appear objectively different for most people now.

On top of that there is increasing wealth disparity which people are confronted with on a hyper-frequent basis. Just take a peak at instagram and you’re reminded that you’re just a serf with every ad and every few posts.


> need to be reminded why it’s important to care.

In the 'good old days' a person could work their way up in a company from the sales floor into a leadership role. The company would encourage this to create a pipeline of experienced managers with first-hand knowledge of customer needs.

That era is long dead. Companies don't care about their customers, they care about maximizing shareholder value above all else. That means doing things like slashing staff to the point where 2 people have to run the entire store. How are they supposed to provide good customer service in a situation like that?


They’re not able to or supposed to, so it’s completely understandable why many people stop caring. I definitely don’t place the responsibility of caring on the people working closest to the customer. They need to be given the training, tools, compensation, and flexibility to have a life in order for that to be realistic. They really aren’t, though. Without that, the immediate responsibility is on corporations and governments to establish baselines which allow workers to have jobs that aren’t totally soul crushing and thankless.

Jobs like that shouldn’t exist at all in my opinion. They’re the result of regulatory failure as far as I can tell.


I feel you're onto something, and like others on the thread, I've got too many anecdotal observations of service providers blatantly being in-your-face apathetic in the US vs, say, Japan where even if forced by convention, people do need to at least appear to really care. Is there formal research on this phenomenon?


Hilariously so. But really what it means is that javascript eats the whole world (FE&BE) which, personally, I do not enjoy myself.


I don’t think any shop starting nowadays really wants to use nodejs on the backend.

I think most everyone is on go or python for BE work.

Just really frontend focused apps or heavy react shops are doing js on the backend.

EDIT: I think “use server” is a nextjs thing FWIW



Oh yep, I was thinking of “use client”

https://nextjs.org/docs/app/building-your-application/render...


That's also baked into React: https://react.dev/reference/rsc/use-client


PHP is what you should be using for server code.


You _should_ the best tool for the job.

Personally,I don’t think php or js are the right tools to build a backend for a business.

Neither are particularly friendly towards growing teams for many reasons, but the lack of strong typing is a big one.

You want your backend to have minimal complexity, that’s why go has been so popular lately


PHP has static and strong types these days and it (and its dialects) are in use by some of the largest teams on the planet


Granted I don’t know much about typing in php, but from my quick google search, it seems like they support type hints and type declarations, but the language isn’t strongly typed.

Also, to your second point, some of the largest, most critical, and most at-risk businesses on the planet (namely banks) run on COBOL, but I wouldn’t exactly describe cobol as a language that lends itself well to large orgs, it’s just entrenched. same as php and dozens of other technologies.


I admit I’ve only ever used Hack, not vanilla PHP, but that one is a pleasure to use. I’m sure the vast majority of my colleagues will agree with that too


When they get around to making a $30K model, I definitely look forward to getting one.


Musk keeps talking about the $25k EV but I have a feeling he's sandbagging it and it will be close to $20k. I say this because Tesla now has all the tech to produce cars in the simplest and cheapest manner with slightly lower quality versions of the bits and pieces that are now going into their premium cars. Ie slightly cheaper versions of the motors, battery packs (smaller but fast charging), interiors, window etc. All in the form of a modern Tercel.


The Elon koolaid is strong with this one. Tesla will not be releasing a 20k car, I can assure you of that.


You just proved the Elon hatress is just as strong


Of all people to loose faith it would be Luke? Riiiight.

And Han and Leia just have to be divorced? Ok.

And their son just has to be evil. ... Ok.

I didn't even bother watching the last film so I don't know if Kylo has his own fun little redemption arc too or not, but no thank you.


> Of all people to loose faith it would be Luke? Riiiight.

Yes; Luke never really dealt with betrayal. He only ever knew Darth Vader, so he wasn't betrayed by Anakin the way Obi-wan and Yoda were.

> And Han and Leia just have to be divorced? Ok.

Your son switching over to the side of the people who blew up your home planet would put a strain on any marriage.

> And their son just has to be evil. ... Ok. I'm actually with you on this one; Anakin's final transformation to Darth Vader was rushed, but at least the seeds were there from episode 1. As far as I remember, Kylo just turned evil because the Force wanted him to.


Luke’s entire characterization in the original movies was that he’d do anything for her friends and that he believed in his father.

In the sequels he plans on doing nothing for anyone (especially his friends) and doesn’t believe in his nephew.


It was 100% trained to be that way.


There is no way that this was unexpected. That is almost as funny a take as the results their "AI" is producing.


On the one hand it is stupid because the policies driving this are, let us say, "biased", but on the other hand it is hilarious to actually see the results of these policies in action!

Maybe it is so over the top so a that when they "fix" it, the remaining bias will be "not so bad".


It seems to me that trying "really hard" isn't a good thing though.


It should generate the image I ask for. As seen, if it explicitly refuses to generate images of white people and blathers on about problematic this-and-that as its "justification", there is a deep issue at hand.


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