I always viewed social media as a catalyst, not the main cause. We've always have this at smaller scales / more local scales, throughout the human history. Social media just lets bob meet alice in a virtual plane, while they couldn't meet and share ideas before. But the ideas, even if reinforced by tech, were always there.

Earlier than that, this brand of social/economic/racial/sexual/etc aggrievement and reactionary politics was bred via 80s-90s AM talk radio.

The talking points that were ascendent in the Tea Party era to 2016, and are still ascendent today, were honed at that time in that sphere. Limbaugh said words 30-40 years ago that breathed life into a reactionary movement 20 years later and shaped its theory.

You can keep following the thread back, but I think this form of weaponized aggrievement took its shape at that time, its literal memes were potent and virulent back then, they just needed the right environment to really spread.

2008 was the big one, but i really think the ball started rolling after 9/11...

Really though it all started with the federalist papers.

As this article shows, it already started in the chimp-human common ancestor.

Nope it all started with LUCA

Knowing what we know now, imagine how much it would have accelerated back then if the elites hadn’t been able to smother out the Occupy movement. Wild to think about

Quite the opposite. In my observations, the time shortly after OWS was a major inflection point.

Nuclear threat is incredibly real. Please call your congressmen.

They are literally on vacation and will do absolutely nothing.

I am under no illusion that they would do something if they were not on vacation.

Who cares about US vs. China. We're talking about jobs here and economy.

The death merchants need a new enemy to justify their existence otherwise we might start cooperating with China where both countries could prosper with massive clean energy infrastructure.

US tech jobs are paid x2 to x3 more than most chinese or european equivalents.

If you can get one. I'd even take 1x at this point.

I've been in this industry for >30 years and it's dead.

dang, you should consider this an existential threat to hn.

I hate myself for saying this, but HN should consider closing new registrations for a while until we figure out what to do with this.

We had an enterprise account on Heroku. We invested a little in Dokku and moved to self host it as of a few months ago.

We now have a kubernetes (k3s) backed Dokku self hosted on Hetzner. Significantly cheaper but pretty robust.

Just saying that it's not literally, but you are right, most people wouldn't be interested in self hosting.

It's not really a simple CLI tool though it's really interactive.

They are not. It's the eastern imperialists that are causing this. And if it's a choice between eastern imperialists (China and Russia) and western ones, it seems that Iranian people by far prefer the western ones.

For three main reasons.

1. Culturally Iranians are way more aligned with west.

2. Western imperialism results in more democracy. Not 100%, but not this bad.

3. Economically countries under west's influence do much better. Iran is extremely poor right now.

Interesting perspective!

Why do you think China and Russia are causing the economic instability? I thought it was because of US sanctions and currency manipulation.

Do you also think that the Iranian people supported the 1953 coup?

If it was about GDP it'd have "some" moral defense: That this leads to overall wealth growth of the population.

But it's not about GDP. It's about shareholder value which is absolutely not representative of the whole population.

Extreme greed is now part of US social contract, top to bottom, and has driven the whole society to madness sadly.

GDP does not measure “the overall wealth of the population” in any semantically meaningful way

But otherwise your point is correct

It's funny how it went from "everything needs to be strongly typed" and "even C++ isn't enough we need Rust for everything" to this...

A good chunk of our profession is just hype-followers at this point.

Also, not just followers. There’s a kinda “merchant” behaviour too I think … signalling and trading in hype perspectives.

But to be fair, I’m not sure what the average dev/eng is supposed to do against a climate of regular change, many disparate opinionated groups with disparate tech stacks, and, IMO a pretty ~~pure~~ poor engineering culture of actually weighing the value of tech/methods against relevant constraints and trade offs.

Yeah I described trends in software development is like the length of skirts. They both have the same logic behind the changes. But I don't consider type systems to be hype. I think they're frequently poorly implemented with a mathematically illiterate notation but they're so damn useful went done reasonably right

Most of my understanding on type systems comes from taking a course on the calculation of programs from the author of this book.

To be blunt, this course and the understanding this book gave me crystallized why I was unhappy with the current state of software development and it was one more nudge pushing me out of the field. I caution others that reading and understanding this book may change your understanding of the software development world enough that you don't want to be part of it either.

Programming in the 1990s: An Introduction to the Calculation of Programs | Springer Nature Link (formerly SpringerLink) https://share.google/K81ZlVTbfoR2oeYLh

Type systems are orthogonal topic. I’d argue that the biggest hypers of AI are in the static types camp, because it allows them to iterate quickly and more safely than using dynamic types.

It was even taught in all schools in Iran!