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Thanks for the thought but from what I’ve heard from friends I’ll be keeping the final season unwatched just like I did with the last 2 episodes of GoT.

The first season was the only really good one.

Exactly, even the second one was a poor caricature.

I don't understand this at all. The episode 4 ending was up there with Dear Billy for me.

It's been a while - I remember liking the first two seasons. Season three felt a bit silly to me without going into much detail (we need a spoiler text wrapper for HN). Season four has a lot of "zombie-esque" stuff which just doesn't have near the dread horror that the first two seasons did IMHO. Haven't seen any of the final season.

Yes I also let my girlfriend skip the last two episodes. Tyrion Lannister did say "if you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention".

That was Ramsay Bolton who said that, I believe.

As someone who hasn't watched GoT, only heard of it from others, let me guess: In those two episodes everyone dies a very cruel and painful death, except for one or two main characters?

Everyone already died a painful and cruel death for the first four seasons, that was what made the show so compelling to watch.

From that point on, everyone gets 10 inch thick plot armour, and then the last two episodes skip a whole season or two of character development to try and box the show off quickly.


Death is not a problem in GoT, the exact opposite, it is what the show is known for.

It's the way stuff is done, the characters' changed behavior, incomprehensible logic, stupid explanations, etc.


It's almost like you're living in an alternate universe where everything is just a little bit better.

It’s very bad.

All of the characters are constantly arguing with each other. The story line requires constant suspension of belief based on the endless succession of improbable events and improbable character behaviors. Contradictions with earlier episodes and even details within the same episode. It's really bad. I hope the final episode redeems it but I have my doubts. I want to have an LLM rewrite season 5 and see how much it improves.

problem is the dialogues sounded to me anyway like they were already written by an LLM

Can you give an example of a contradiction within the same episode?

It really isn't. I keep seeing comparisons to the last seasons of Game of Thrones, but while there is a dip in quality this season, it is no where near as bad as what happened to GoT.

GoT got so bad that I don't really have any desire to watch any of the seasons ever again. Killed rewatchability.

I rewatched it in recent weeks and enjoyed all the bits that I enjoyed years ago during the first watch. The stories I found a bit tedious first time (High Sparrow plotline, Arya and faceless men) weren't as miserable; I think I was expecting them to drag on even more. My biggest grievance on the rewatch was just how poorly it's all tied up. I again enjoyed The Long Night through the lens of 'spectacle over military documentary'. The last season just felt like they wrote themselves into a corner and didn't have time and patience to see it through. By that point, actors were ready to move on, etc.

I don't really view this as the show runners fault. GRRM was unable to complete his own work. The show worked best when it drew from the authors own material (GRRM was a screenwriter himself and knew how to write great dialog/scenes).

Not the actors, the showrunners.

Skimming and being able to quickly decide if something is worth actually reading is itself a valuable skill.

There's a limit to how fast I can feasibly skim, and LLMs definitely do it faster.

"Now, imagine for a moment they had also vertically integrated the hardware to do this."

Then you realise you aren't imagining it.


“And then imagine Google designing silicon that doesn’t trail the industry. While you are there we may as well start to imagine Google figures out how to support a product lifecycle that isn’t AdSense”

Google is great on the data science alone, every thing else is an after thought


https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-google-tp...

"And then imagine Google designing silicon that doesn’t trail the industry."

I'm def not a Google stan generally, but uh, have you even been paying attention?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_Processing_Unit


It's not funny when I have to explain the joke.

Oh I got your joke, sir - but as you can see from the other comment, there are techies who still don't have even a rudimentary understanding of tensor cores, let alone the wider public and many investors. Over the next year or two the gap between Google and everybody else, even those they license their hardware to, is going to explode.

Exactly my point, they have bespoke offerings but when they compete head to head for performance they get smoked. See more: their Tensor processor that they use in the beleaguered Pixel. They are in last place.

TPUs on the other hand are ASICs, we are more than familiar with the limited application, high performance and high barriers to entry associated with them. TPUs will be worthless as the AI bubble keeps deflating and excess capacity is everywhere.

The people who don't have a rudimentary understanding are the wall street boosters that treat it like the primary threat to Nvidia or a moat for Google (hint: it is neither).


"At this point in time I start to believe OAI is very much behind on the models race and it can't be reversed"

This has been true for at least 4 months and yeah, based on how these things scale and also Google's capital + in-house hardware advantages, it's probably insurmountable.


OAI also got talent mined. Their top intellectual leaders left after fight with sama, then Meta took a bunch of their mid-senior talent, and Google had the opposite. They brought Noam and Sergey back.

Yeah the only thing standing in Google's way is Google. And it's the easy stuff, like sensible billing models, easy to use docs and consoles that make sense and don't require 20 hours to learn/navigate, and then just the slew of bugs in Gemini CLI that are basic usability and model API interaction things. The only differentiator that OpenAI still has is polish.

Edit: And just to add an example: openAI's Codex CLI billing is easy for me. I just sign up for the base package, and then add extra credits which I automatically use once I'm through my weekly allowance. With Gemini CLI I'm using my oauth account, and then having to rotate API keys once I've used that up.

Also, Gemini CLI loves spewing out its own chain of thought when it gets into a weird state.

Also Gemini CLI has an insane bias to action that is almost insurmountable. DO NOT START THE NEXT STAGE still has it starting the next stage.

Also Gemini CLI has been terrible at visibility on what it's actually doing at each step - although that seems a bit improved with this new model today.


I'd be curious how many people use openrouter byok just to avoid figuring out the cloud consoles for gcp/azure.

Openrouter is great! Prepaid, no surprise bills. Easily switch between any models you desire. Dead simple interface. Reliable. What's not to like?

With OpenRouter it can be unclear if you're getting a quantized model or not.

Agreed. It's ridiculous.

I do. Gave up using Gemini directly.

I mean I do too, had a really odd Gemini bug until I did byok on openrouter

Gemini CLI via a Google One plan is the regular consumer billing flow which is pretty straightforward.

Translate sure.

Image search? I have a search engine for that.

Live captions? Didn’t ask for that, wouldn’t use it.

Dubbing? Ditto.

Summary? Wouldn’t trust an AI for that, plus it’s just more tik-tokification. No fucking thanks. I don’t need to experience life as short blips of everything.

Rewrite text better? Might as well kill myself once I’m ready to let a predictive text bot write shit in my place.

So… no thanks.


Yes, Translate is the only one I want - and we already have that!

The worst is anything that tries to suggest stuff in text fields or puts buttons etc. to try and get you to "rewrite with AI" or any nonsense like that - makes me just want to burn anything like that to the ground.


  > Image search? I have a search engine for that.
I'd use it. Why does it need to be another site? I'd trust Mozilla more than I trust Google. Do you really feel different?

Plus, Search by Image[0] is one of the most popular extensions, with 3x as many people using it as tree-style tabs.

I don't use it but a grammar tool is the next most popular[1], so I could see this being quite a useful feature.

But the other stuff, I'm with you. I like translate but I personally don't care for dubbing, summarizing, or anything else.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/search_by_ima...

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/languagetool/


But that’s exactly my point - addons already solve these problems without baking them in natively. Adding AI just creates bloatware/privacy/security/maintenance problems that are already solved by users being able to customise the browser for their own needs.

I do get that and I'm like 60% with you, but I'm just saying that it is easy to get a bit in a bubble and Mozilla needs to cater to the average person. And let's be honest, we aren't the average user.

Personally I'm fine as long as it continues to be easy to disable and remove. Yeah, I'd rather it be opt-in instead of opt-out but it's not a big price to pay to avoid giving Chrome more power over the internet. At the end of the day these issues are pretty small fish in comparison.


I mean, Chrome/Google have already won the browser wars and it isn't even close. 'Average' persons don't use Firefox, period - they use Chrome. I dunno when you last looked at browser market share, but Firefox is already extremely niche. Trying to cater to the 'average user' when your entire userbase consists of power users is asinine but Mozilla clearly doesn't understand this. They think it's still 2008 or something.

Do you use Firefox?

If not, why not?

Do normal people use Firefox?

I've successfully migrated my girlfriend, parents, and several friends. Half those friends don't even know how to program. So yes, normal people can use Firefox and they really don't notice the difference.

  > Chrome/Google have already won the browser wars
It isn't over till its over. It's trivial to make a stand in this fight. It is beyond me why a large portion of HN users aren't using FF or one of its derivatives. Of all people they should be more likely to understand what's at stake here...

Yes I use FF. You’ve completely misunderstood my point.

Your comment about how YOU had to get the people close to you to use FF was exactly my point. Techies are the only people who use FF now without it being foisted onto them by their techie friends.


Local RAG on your browsed pages (either automatically, manually or a mix (allow/disallow domains/url) ?

You personally wouldn't use live captions and dubbing, so there's no point building it for the millions of people who need it as an accessibility feature?

They can use addons, but it shouldn’t be built in to the browser. Not all that complicated.

Because of what?

Why it must be addon? Because Ai has negative connotations?


Bloat? Security? Privacy? Larger codebase to maintain? Lack of focus by a Browseer company? Speed?

Live captions and dubbing can be a game changer for:

- non native speakers - moving away from the english-centric web - impaired people


Couldn’t care less about any of that. English is the world’s dominant language and will remain so for the foreseeable future. There’s nothing wrong with that. And subtitles exist already or can be generated by addons. Most people don’t use them. So, once again, maybe don’t inconvenience the vast majority of users for some small subset of the population.

> English is the world’s dominant language and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

Based on the fact that you said this I'm going to assume you can't read/write Mandarin, apologies if that's incorrect because that leads to my second assumption which is that you're unaware of the astonishingly vast amount of content and conversation related to open source and AI/ML you're missing out on as a result of not being able to read/write Mandarin.


What does what you wrote have to do with what I wrote, or the comment I was replying to? Literally every reasonably educated Chinese person speaks English as a 2nd language.

I'm missing out on all sorts of shit I'd find interesting by virtue of not being a prodigious polyglot. That fact has nothing to do with English being the global language for literally everything in every domain, nor with the fact that in-browser language translation doesn't require baked-in AI.


Just say that you dont care about other ppl, that's it, lol.

English proficiency is pretty high bar. Thats multi year effort


I mean, sure. I don’t generally give a shit about other people. That’s also not really relevant here. There will always be a dominant language. Currently, it happens to be English and it will remain English into the near future (250+ years). If you attend even a shitty school in a third world country today you are taught English as a second language. Look at the Philippines or sub-Saharan African countries. Everybody speaks English + their native language.

Crying about English’s global penetration is super weird while also being pointless, since it’s a fait accompli at this point.


local LLM assisted 'tampermonkey' userscript generation?

Ok, and what do I do when these guys go out of business/get bought by Amazon/microsoft/whatever in 3 or 5 years? Like, the game’s up with this cloud stuff, surely. None of it is to be trusted.


I agree with you, but not because of this particular incident. This was a Pratt and Whitney issue most likely, but that doesn’t mean Boeing isn’t mega fucked for other reasons.


This is sarcasm right?



No, because following major software updates is the right thing for 99% of people, not staying behind on a previous major version with security updates.

You have to think about UX for 99%, not just for HNers who might know what a 15.7.3 is.


> No, because following major software updates is the right thing for 99% of people

Not if we aren’t talking about security updates. In this case the previous version of iOS also has the same security updates so ‘updating’ to a new version is completely up to the user, with no difference in security posture either way. Tricking users into updating for what are in the tech company’s opinion ‘new features’ is by definition a dark pattern.


I used to think this kind of stuff until I had to make similar decisions about UX for technical software that wasn't just used by engineers.

"Want to upgrade to 15.7.3 or 26.2?" is just a nonstarter.

Kinda feels like crying wolf and watering down the term to invoke "dark pattern" for platform software upgrades.


If there are security updates, then actually staying on the old OS is probably better for 99% of users. Constant change is almost impossible for most people to deal with.


Having a default choice is not itself a dark pattern. Offering a free update to the latest version of the project, and a choice to update a branch release instead, does not constitute a dark pattern.


The dark pattern emerges when you mislead the user about what they’re clicking. Deception in the UI is by definition a dark pattern.

Weird hill for you to die on given that dark patterns have been specifically legislated for in many jurisdictions and have a clear definition.


So if they aren’t reasonable what’s the point of typing them out in a list exhorting others to implement them?


Because showing that the mitigation is unreasonable highlights how unreasonable the problem is.


The original commenter said he always suggests people do these things.


Yes, this is what they think is required to be safe. It’s up to you what you do. But what’s better having information or not having information?

At the very least “civilians” need to be informed, and warned.


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