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I think it’s worth considering that these things are not binary and we’re all different in goals and approaches.

Personally, we ended up living where my wife grew up and about an half hour from my fold, and were really social in the community. For my kids, that meant lots of cousins for the kids and a pretty rich social life for us. Lots of little league and community events. Folks didn’t change the diapers, but they had our backs in a thousand ways.

My sister and her husband live in a mega city a few hundred miles away. They are doing great, but they are doing it on their own. I think it’s harder on their kids in some ways, but they are doing fine.

IMO, “the village” is a better way to live and brings a lot to the table. But there’s no one answer.


Is it so different?

If the US’s fascist experiment continues past the current president, we’ll absolutely be nationalizing frontier companies or exerting equivalent control.


Yes, China is very different from the US.

Sigh. Obama and Biden were as every bit "fascist" as Trump.

I'm glad I get reminded that TDS is real, but everyone forgets that Bush, Obama, and Biden all did things with executive power that Congress ignored or provided little real oversight for. And Congress has proven over the last several decades that their oversight is rather meaningless for the goals of American voters rather than special interests.

But it's all Trump's fault is much more convenient.


> Sigh. Obama and Biden were as every bit "fascist" as Trump.

Absolutely not. There is huge difference in the they behavior.

> But it's all Trump's fault is much more convenient.

It is not just Trumps fault. Trump is logical consequence of what conservative party became. J.D.Vance and Miller are as much fascists if not more. The whole party worked for this for years and created this.

> And Congress has proven over the last several decades that their oversight is rather meaningless for the goals of American voters rather than special interests.

Of course congress in general is not the place to stop republican party from their fascists goals, because republicans in the congress support Trump 100%. They stand by project 2025 100%. They are doing oversight all right when it comes to blocking democrats.

The idea that the party that made Trump big, promoted ideas he build on and created project 2025 is supposed to be counterbalance to itself is absurd.


Certainly Biden and Obama check off a few of the 14 points of Fascism, but are we really being serious here? "TDS" is just a thought terminating cliche.

Alot of the language work is scratching the itch of engineers and developers. I think you’re correct and react is the new COBOL.

They're really the same thing. I think of the classic Walmart/Vlasic pickle story.

https://eng121.net/online%20textbook/cause-effect/The%20Wall...


One of the issues is that their historical strengths became weaknesses. Scouting integrated into existing infrastructure, which is why religion is such a prominent aspect. (It’s also why as mentioned elsewhere the politics around the LDS church became so recently important.) Boy Scouts was mostly and overlay that slotted on top of church youth programs. (Also other secular groups but that was smaller)

The shifting of religious practice in the US impacted scouting as well. Mainline Protestantism and Catholic Churches are on the decline - that’s the backbone. In the Catholic environment I grew up in, Boy Scouts kept kids engaged after communion with the parish.

The other issue with the model is that the local organization leadership reflected the old model. (ie. It’s a bunch of white dudes) The most traditional, growing communities who would be attracted to scouting with Catholic and Episcopal communities are Hispanic, Filipino and in my area Indian.

It is sad. I was involved from age 7-14 (when we moved) and loved it. But institutions only survive when they can grow themselves.


I served in an executive role for a non-Federal government organization. Think a senior director, not a political position.

My stock holdings had to be disclosed, and were and still are publicly viewable. They audit them and explore potential conflicts. When I was promoted, I had to justify and certify potential conflicts due to long existing stock holdings of myself and my son, which were subject to monitoring and I was not allowed to participate in certain activities without counsel approval. Even that was only permissible because I asked for specific permission due to the hardship I would face from tax liability. If I hadn’t asked for that permission I could’ve been subjected to a civil penalty or even criminal prosecution.

That’s required for public confidence. The federal rules are stricter. A Federal official can be subject to a fine for displaying a political lawn sign at their home. Their supplemental retirement plan obscures the corporate affiliations of their investments.

Unfortunately, you’re displaying the nihilist, uninformed perspective which put fascists in power. By saying the president is corrupt, but so is everybody else you’re implicitly supporting and endorsing the behavior. That’s what they want.

Choose to educate yourself with better sources.


>That’s required for public confidence. The federal rules are stricter.

You're trying to hide behind a bureaucratic mumbo jumbo, which is how the likes on Nancy Pelosi can constantly beat the stock market by a wide margin, and yet not raise any legal eyebrows.

Not putting you in the same basket as her, just saying that just because there are rules in place, doesn't mean they have the desired preventing effect you talk about, because it's the enforcement that's lacking. Just because the policies keep YOU honest, doesn't mean they apply to everyone else.

>Unfortunately, you’re displaying the nihilist, uninformed perspective which put fascists in power. By saying the president is corrupt, but so is everybody else you’re implicitly supporting and endorsing the behavior. That’s what they want.

You're soo offtopic that it's laughable. Sure buddy, everyone with a different opinion than you is a fascist, only you have the right answer to everything from within your bubble.

Why do you think that special forces officer was arrested for insider trading but not Trump's friends? Now tell us again, how there's no legal double standards, and your legal mumbo jumbo prevents insider trading.


It’s really simple. The president is a criminal backed by an authoritarian political party whose members of Congress refuse to do their jobs.

That’s the difference between a Spiro Agnew or a Richard Nixon. Crooks, but without the same type of cronyism.


How did Netflix do making a business decision that defied the wishes of the Ellison family? With Trump 47 there are literally pages of this sort of stuff.

Other notable non-Trumpist example is Joseph Nacchio, the former CEO of Qwest. He refused to comply with a request for phone records without a warrant. The reaction was a drop in Federal business and a prosecution for insider trading.


That was over 20 years ago? And there were half a dozen Qwest executives who were profiting from insider trading on inflated revenues that started in 1999, long before the NSA incident in 2001. I remember it clearly because I had the misfortune of being a shareholder in that dog.

Totally.

In companies that routinely layoff people for lulz, executives collect business units for layoff fodder to protect their key players.

It’s the proving ground for the sociopaths who rise up.


See: "The B-Ark".

That’s really only a rather small part of the picture.

Hospitals are opex constrained for things that don’t generate revenue. The operations run lean and are focused on operating. There’s no bench in finance or IT or whatever to figure stuff out. Enter the consultant.

Consulting is often tied to capital spend and most importantly they go away when the job is done.


Oh boy. Next you’re gonna tell me the blooming onion isn’t an Australian cultural tradition! (lol)

I see you've played knifey-spoony before.

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