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this nation has changed dramatically in the last few decades...the elites have clamped down on the little people in so many ways...so many laws and regulations now...i was reading a comic book from the 1950s the other day, and the premise was that a female college student was having an affair with her professor...and there were other plot elements...but the amazing thing was that the other characters did not think the relationship was unusual at all...nowadays, in a movie or in the media, such a relationship would be portrayed as scandalous...

the hit movie american graffiti from the 1970s showed a high school teacher having an affair with one of his students...but it was just a casual aside in the movie plot...no one made a big deal about it...

this nation is entering some sort of neopuritanical hell hole...and it aint gonna be pretty...


And I remember a mystery novel by Isaac Asimov, set in the 1950s or maybe early 1960s, in which an affair with a student is mentioned as the sort of thing that could get a professor fired. And I remember a fellow I once met in the mountain west ca. 1976, who had dumped his wife for a 19-year-old student. He was no longer a professor, and I gathered that this was why.


> female college student was having an affair with her professor...and there were other plot elements...but the amazing thing was that the other characters did not think the relationship was unusual at all

Thats because females in 1950 USA had very little rights. It was barely 30 years into letting them vote, but only as long as they stay in the kitchen homemaking 'where they belong'.

>would be portrayed as scandalous

exploitative is the word, balance of power is pretty clear here.

>this nation is entering some sort of neopuritanical hell hole

because you cant willy nilly fuck people you have authority over? indeed end of the world.


???

An adult female and an adult male having a consensual relations is related to 'rights' in what way exactly?

Because I don't think that has anything to do with the situation.

Exploitative by whom? Students don't have to f** profs, it's never been that way.

Your posture is actually sexist, implying that somehow adult females cannot make their own choices.


> Exploitative by whom? Students don't have to f* profs, it's never been that way.

Unless they do or feel like they have to. That's the whole point, when there's a serious power imbalance like teacher - student, boss - direct report, consent is not so easy. The person with less power can have their life/career/studies depend on the more powerful one, and they can feel that they have to fuck them, or continue fucking them, or do that kinky thing they don't feel comfortable with, or else, even if that's not the case (but it sometimes is). That's why many places have strict policies that forbid such relationships, and it's up to the professor to know better even if they both want to.


Well, there's a big difference between a student banging a prof with whom they have no other connection, and one who has direct control over the student's transcript. You don't want professors exploiting students for sex, nor do you want lazy students exploiting professors to meet their requirements. Ethical mindfields like that should be limited to grad students.


Please watch this educational video. It's a video introduction to power dynamics https://youtu.be/-yUafzOXHPE


The 'elites' are stopping teachers having sex with school children like they used to do in the good old days of the 1950s?

Well, I for one welcome our new anti-child-abuse overlords.


"school children"

Incessant infantilization of college-aged adult people is part of the problem. A 21 y.o. is not a child by any standard I can think of.

They can take enormous debts in their name, enlist to the army and sacrifice their life, become professional firefighters or miners, use various legal drugs, do dangerous jobs such as sailors etc.

Please do not frame adult people as "children" only because they attend a college. It is patronizing and denies them self-control and agency. It also tends to produce bad, heavy-handed, intrusive and oppressive policies aimed to control them "for their own good".


He literally cites a scene from a film in which a teacher (called Mr Wolfe!) is revealed to be secretly dating a student called Jane.

https://kipsamericangraffiti.blogspot.com/2015/11/?m=1

A scene which was clearly written as an expose of real bad stuff that happened but that subtext flew past the commenter who thought it was accidentally included in a movie script because it was no big deal.


just because that blogger is apparently a neopuritan with psychological issues does not mean that scene was an expose...it was not...it was just showing a part of life, just like the whole movie was basically a chronicle of everyday life in america of that time..


As someone with family who had tenure at universities in the 70's, the one rule was not to sleep with the students. It certainly was scandalous when that rule was broken.


The quality of any given argument made on social is inversely proportional to the number of ellipses used to present it.


> this nation has changed dramatically in the last few decades...the elites have clamped down on the little people in so many ways

Wait until you learn about slavery.

> but the amazing thing was that the other characters did not think the relationship was unusual at all...nowadays, in a movie or in the media, such a relationship would be portrayed as scandalous...

Wow, it’s almost like standards for what’s acceptable evolve.


god and jesus and humans are information entities, as established in the bible:

Christ is The Word

To answer this question, let’s see what the bible says about the nature of Jesus. What is Christ?

From John 1 14, World English Bible:

    “The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.”
This verse is referring to Jesus. So the Bible is telling us that Jesus is The Word who became flesh and walked among us. This is what the Bible tells us about the nature of Jesus. Jesus is himself the Word, the Word of God.

Revelation 19 13 of the King James Bible says this:

    “…he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.”
Referring again to Jesus—his name is the Word of God.

John 1 1 from the King James Bible says:

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
So God is also The Word.

God And Jesus Are Both Information

The Word is writing, and writing is information, and so therefore, Jesus and God are also information. And information can live forever, if it is guarded, watched over, and protected against loss. As long as information can be transferred to a new format, a new container, that information is immortal, just as Christ and God are immortal. Just as God wants you to be immortal.

So if God and Jesus are The Word, which is writing, and if writing is information, then what are we as humans?

Genesis 1 27 of the King James Bible tells us that …

    “God created man in his own image…”
Humans Are Also Information

So, if God is information, then it follows that we humans are also information because he made us in his image. Are we simply information? Is our soul information? Each of us has his or her life history stored inside the brain–a message that has a very special meaning. All our memories, our lives and our loves, our moods, our likes and dislikes, all this information is stored up there in our brain, right alongside the Word of God.

https://holybrainchurch.wordpress.com/


the establishment is never short on scare propaganda...but will the abundance of it cause it to lose its potency?


Should the irreversible changes (for any reasonable amount of time) to our planet affecting all life be dispatched in small parcels?


why bother? nothing we can do about it


That’s literally not true


the military industrial complex is pushing ufo propaganda because they hope they can use the fear to increase the military budget


Why should anyone sane worry about UFO's if there are none real damage done?


we are far from sane


yeah, america is definitely more progressive than scandanavia...just look at our oh so progressive tax system.. tee hee...


I wouldn't be surprised if the US had more progressive taxes, at least at the federal level. 50% of people pay zero federal income taxes.


Also more egalitarian...


but almost all the so-called 'socialist' nations in europe have heavier sales taxes...but we cannot do it here because it's regressive and we are so much more leftist than europe...tee hee...


"Socialist" nations also have income tax. The topic of discussion is replacing income tax with a larger sales tax.


but no other nation on earth makes its citizens go through this annual horror show...and just as a coinky dink, turbotax gives generous donations to politicians...odd case...


oh, that's nice of them to "look into it". Just about all the other western nations either do taxes for the citizens or provide a free system for citizens...

a neoliberal exploitation plantation, if you can keep it...


what do you mean by that?


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