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I hope people see this comment.

Meditation is to mental training and focus, as going to the gym is to physical training.

Socials killed our attention span. Agents are literally making us context switch even more.

Putting aside the whole "I am at piece and one with the world" part of meditation, it is extremely hard.

I'm also no expert. When I'm waiting for something to finish (agent, compilation, etc), I've found that staring at a wall ends up in a net positive in productivity rather than replying to a message, going on X, or kicking off another agent.


One thing I do point out to folks is that meditation comes in many shapes, there is no one size fits all. For some it is silent sitting Zazen style, for others it is walking mediation, or a sort of physical almost martial arts type thing. There is a thousand different style in between that. Do what works for you. If that is staring at walls, neat!


Thanks for mentioning this.


The hard part is that the training looks like nothing from the outside, so it's easy to dismiss (in a way)


This is great. Puts Rick Rubin's appearance into perspective.


Much like the gym, meditation seems to me like an artificial alternative to an actually healthy lifestyle. Perhaps it is necessary to have such explicit and focused "exercising" to really get what you need nowadays, there may be merit to that.

But why not just go for a nice walk with no headphones?


Depending on who you ask, that is a form of meditation (or at the very least, a meditative activity).

And like the gym, it isn't necessarily orthogonal to a healthy lifestyle; sometimes, it’s just a way of focusing efforts toward a specific goal.

Some people get so much stimulation even when walking normally that it breaks the kind of focus they’re looking for (or they don't live in a zone particularly conducive to walking.) It is what it is


I am a pretty peaceful person, but working with agents frequently (daily) makes me furious. I wonder if the context switching you mentioned leads to more fatigue, which makes me much more irritable.


That's the case for me.

I still use agents for everything, but started on doing my best to single-task.

Think or plan while it's running.

Feels wasteful, but it's powerful.


Let's not forget the quality and calm of high quality newsletters.

If you need an RSS feed for a blog that doesn't have one, open an issue!

I've started getting support from other contributors. Please support them too!


Literally posted about this but w.r.t to agent-skills yesterday: https://olshansky.substack.com/p/why-every-developer-needs-t...

Need to move from skill downloads to skill usage.


I've never found a Hacker News comment this insightful. Ty.


I ran into the founder of TheVoid.com yesterday and he's on to a new venture where he finally executes on his vission.


tl;dr "scrt [set|get|list|....]" is also a great option

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If this is of interest, I also recommend looking into: https://github.com/loderunner/scrt.

To me, it's a compliment to 1password.

I use it to save every new secret/api key I get via the CLI.

It's intentionally very feature limited.

Haven't tried it with agents, but wouldn't be surprised if the CLI (as is) would be enough.


Remember when OpenAI sold half of itself for $10B?



Yes and no.

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Concrete example of a no: I set up [1] in such a way that anyone can implement a new blog -> rss feed; docs, agents.md, open-source, free, etc...

Concrete example of a yes: Company spends too much money on simple software.

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I feel the need to share: https://grove.city/

Human Flywheel: Human tips creator <-> Creator engages with audience

Agent Flywheel: Human creates creative content <-> Agent tips human

Yes, it uses crypto, but it's just stablecoins.

This is going to exist in some fashion and all online content creation (OSS and other) will need it.

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As with everything, it Obvious

[1] https://github.com/Olshansk/rss-feeds


Resurfacing a proposal I put out on llms-txt: https://github.com/AnswerDotAI/llms-txt/issues/88

We should add optional `tips` addresses in llms.txt files.

We're also working on enabling and solving this at Grove.city.

Human <-> Agent <-> Human Tips don't account for all the edge cases, but they're a necessary and happy neutral medium.

Moving fast. Would love to share more with the community.

Wrote about it here: https://x.com/olshansky/status/2008282844624216293


At this point, it's pretty clear that the AI scrapers won't be limited by any voluntary restrictions. Bytedance never seemed to live with robots.txt limitations, and I think at least some of the others didn't either.

I can't see this working.


The thesis/approach is:

- Humans tip humans as a lottery ticket for an experience (meet the creator) or sweepstakes (free stuff) - Agents tip humans because they know they'll need original online content in the long-term to keep improving.

For the latter, frontier labs will need to fund their training/inference agents with a tipping jar.

There's no guarantee, but I can see it happening given where things are movin.


> Agents tip humans because they know they'll need original online content in the long-term to keep improving.

Why would an agent have any long term incentive. It's trained to 'do what it's told', not to predict the consequences of it's actions.


I like the idea, (original) content creators being credited is good for the entire ecosystem.

Though if LLMs are willingly ignoring robots.txt, often hiding themselves or using third party scraped data- are they going to pay?


llms-txt may be useful for responsible LLMs, but I am skeptical that llms-txt will reduce the problem of aggressive crawlers. The problematic crawlers are already ignoring robots.txt, spoofing user-agents and using rotating proxies. I'm not sure how llms-txt would help these problems.


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