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I don't get the sense that Elon's companies care much for the contracts they sign.

e.g. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/twitter-stiffs-s...

I wouldn't trust a contract from one of Elon's companies unless they were willing to put in escrow an amount that would make me whole in case of a breach on their side. (And that amount would be quite large in the case of a potential breach involving using prompt data for training.)


Not a business use case, but I run it for my home server. I've got some QNAP JBOD SAS enclosures that only support firmware updates via Windows (or QNAP NAS). Every other disk enclosure I looked at involved some compromises (e.g. rackmounted, or non-SAS, or a custom-built thing that I'm not really interested in.)

The next best alterative would be a Mac Studio with Thunderbolt enclosures, but that would be notably more expensive, and macOS isn't great as a server OS.


> I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to.

It can bill to our Azure sub and I don't have to go through the internal bureaucracy of purchasing a new product/service from a new vendor.


I would also add that the models they supply through Azure Foundry are covered under my employer's existing customer agreement, by which MS is not allowed to train models on our data (which might include IP of the company or its clients). For organizations worried about that, it's nice & cozy.

They just altered this deal for everyone else. Wonder how long they will wait before default opting you all into training too?

PSA: You only have about 36 hours left to opt-out!

Bingo. Github Copilot is mostly for organizations that have an existing Azure bill and would rather see that go up then get a new vendor bill. Professional middlemen.

This is pretty straightforward compared to the giant universe of companies that resell Microsoft services.

The number of intermediaries that some customers, especially governmental agencies, go through to get just an Azure bill can be wild...


I’ve recently been unwillingly exposed to this side of things. It’s truly an insane, there must be a better way?

It's BASIC. LET them GOTO jail (BSD also comes to mind)

(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_licensing_corruption... ) The upside: the EU finally got a prosecutor. And last but not least everybody forgot why the Baby Bells were born.


If you’ve ever had to be part of the frankly batshit insane procurement process that some organizations force you to gauntlet through, it becomes a very obvious and appealing option to do this

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It technically does indeed matter, because "then" means a totally different thing in that sentence, but using "then" in that way would be an odd enough way to construct that sentence that it's blindingly obvious that they meant "than".

> Learning the difference isn't hard.

I get your frustration, and it pisses me off too, but no need to be rude to the commenter to get your point across.


What reasonable interpretation of the sentence is there if "then" is applied literally? I can only find validity using "than", and therefore the use of "then" doesn't matter as the author's intent isn't lost. That said, carrying the assumption that it does matter forward, how are you certain "then" isn't the correct interpretation of the author's intent?

This is the kind of argument you should take to your 3rd grade teacher.

The trouble with your plan is that nobody outside of high school debate club is going to spend time with an argument.

It's not my plan.

Ah, the AWS Marketplace procurement model, where products mostly exist so that you can line item things through Amazon rather than going through a lengthy procurement process

Not surprised to see this is common. At my company basically everyone and their mother are using Claude Code via Bedrock, despite us having company-wide Windsurf, Copilot and ChatGPT Enterprise accounts

That sounds different, the parent is saying they're using that because then no new billing and stuff has to be negotiated/setup, but in your case everything is already setup and people have access, they just chose to use something else?

Indeed. The use case is like this: I'm a Devops/Platform/SRE/Infra/WhateverYouCallAWSAdminInYourOrg at BigCorp and end users are asking me to use software XYZ. It's on the AWS Marketplace. I have two choices. I could either

1. Go through a 1-2 month procurement process where I have to deal with not only the vendor's sales team on who I'm buying from but also probably multiple teams in my BigCorp. Vendor sales team wants to feel relevant and so I'm sitting in at least one meeting where I'm telling them I just want to buy your shit make it as fast as possible. But then the people in my BigCorp likely not only don't understand why the software is necessary, but need to feel relevant and as such will make me fight through bureaucratic hurdles. I have to get compliance involved. Finance involved. If there's a procurement team I have to get them involved. Probably there's a security questionnaire that my bigcorp's security team uses. I have to send that to the vendor's sales people. They have to send it to their security folks. Security folks on their end have to complete it and send it back. I have to send approvals up the chain on my end, after I've successfully convinced some clueless nontechnical user why software XYZ is important and no, the shit half baked thing we already have doesn't work.

OR alternatively:

2. I can go to the AWS marketplace, click a button, and now my AWS bill goes up X thousands of dollars per month and none of the bullshit from 1 is required. Because AWS is already an approved vendor. Everyone except perhaps someone monitoring the AWS bill for large increases is happy and doesn't care (well, maybe the security team does, but hopefully they aren't tattling on you to the procurement people who have nothing to do and want to stick their fingers in the process and we can make that process go quick), and I just need to tell that person that we are doing it.

It's not always the exact narrative I just laid out, but the gist of it is pretty much procurement at every bigcorp.


It's understandable but sad that this will often be the reason.

It’s got pretty good integration into vscode and you can bypass key anyway

Microsoft's USP in one sentence.

Some places have more automated steps - Uniqlo has bins where you just toss in all your clothes and it detects it via RFID tags in the price tags and rings up a total.

You won't like what you see if you read restaurant inspection reports of people who are actively handling the food that's getting served to you.

The explicit agreement also says that you'll return your shopping cart to the coral, and see how well that works.

My decision on whether to use the self-checkouts at Costco often comes down to "do I want to remove these heavy items from my cart?"

> So scan everything, then put it in the cart and walk off without putting in the credit card.

I actually saw someone do this a couple weeks ago.


I'm absent minded enough to accidentally do this on a bad day. I haven't yet, to my knowledge.

"winget configure" is pretty great in Windows - you can store your personal .config file on GitHub and use it whenever you set up a new PC to install everything you want, uninstall all the cruft you don't want, and set all the Windows config you want via registry keys.

This is especially notably when you want to support all the latest OS features.

My company keeps the testing cycle smaller by only adding new OS-dependent features to its mobile app when the minimum supported OS version gets incremented and a feature is supported in every supported OS version. That means that the iOS app is only now getting features that were added in iOS 15 in 2021.


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