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I live in San Mateo County, CA and in my street 3 neighbors have sold their Teslas within the last 8 weeks and switched to other brands.


There does appear to be a social cost to driving a Tesla in blue-leaning areas these days. Nothing overt, but I've heard people who bought them without knowing who Musk is (and don't agree with him) now openly saying "never-again".

If the used Tesla market gets flooded, will there be consumer demand for those used Teslas? I suspect that most will be in suburban red-leaning areas in areas that aren't openly EV-technology hostile (something like the Dallas or Atlanta suburbs).

The problem for Tesla is that unlike the prestige effect of used luxury car sales driving new luxury car sales (i.e. BMW, Benz, etc), these cars are being disposed of because they are becoming less desirable. The target market for new Teslas seems to be shrinking among the primary populations who both want and can afford EVs.


> I live in San Mateo County, CA

Jackson Hole, Wyoming. One sold (Model X), one scrapped (Cybertruck). Oddly, opposite ends of the political spectrum. Both because of Musk’s new brand.


"Republicans buy sneakers, too."

I wonder how long it will take the Tesla board to fully internalise the meaning of that quote.


https://www.pewresearch.org/?attachment_id=179415 (draw your attention to the center of the graphic, Republican vs Democrat, as it relates to who would consider purchasing an EV)

About 3 in 10 Americans would seriously consider buying an electric vehicle - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/06/27/about-3-i... - June 27, 2024


The graphic shows that 85% of the addressable market favour party A and 15% party B. My point is that once you strongly align your brand with either party, you alienate a decent chunk of your customers.

If you have to choose, then in this situation choosing A is much better than B, but why alienate any of your customers like this?


Because Musk cannot help himself emotionally. He cannot quell the desire for more; more power, more control, more status seeking.

https://insideevs.com/news/749741/tesla-ev-buyers-favorabili...


Where do I buy one of these cheap Teslas people are selling for political reasons?


> Where do I buy one of these cheap Teslas people are selling for political reasons?

Wherever your locale buys and sells used cars. The price of used Teslas has been dropping at a ~24% annualised rate over the last 30 to 90 days [1].

[1] https://www.cargurus.com/research/price-trends/Tesla-m112


Pretty much anywhere you would buy any other used car. Model 3/y used prices are down 20% yoy (compared to ~4% all cars).


There have been cheap used Teslas for years. Just was searching Cragslist a few months ago, and found Model Ss for $15-20k.


I live in the south bay and my apartment complex parking is still just as full of Teslas. so take of that what you will.


I’ll be selling our Tesla as soon as other brands have NACS. Specifically Rivian is what I’m looking for and have a preorder on an R2


The 2025 model of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 has NACS and is my favorite alternative in terms of looks, features, and price. Rivian has been in a different price category so I have a hard time believing the $45k starting price.


Yup, We are waiting for the rivian to have NACS as well. I was considering the idea of buying a used Tesla and just ripping the emblems off and putting a wrap on it. I don't like car models and brands on cars anyways.

But yeah, probably will definitely get a rivian, especially the new R3!

I still don't know if the heat pump will be as good as Tesla's but it doesn't matter. I don't respect Elon anymore. I still do definitely admire some of his technical talents and ability to ship products. I don't think just cuz a person does a bad thing means they're a bad person.


Rivian already supports NACS dongles.

Realistically, you’ll want CCS and NACS for the foreseeable future.


I encourage the author to spend an afternoon and evening in Palo Alto as well as in SF and SJ downtown. Please tell us afterwards where you and your family would rather live.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHlpmxLTxpw

Dangers of Car-Dependent Suburbs: How Urban Planning Affects Parenting

In this segment, the speaker highlights the stark contrast between the freedom and independence of Dutch children versus the restrictive upbringing in car-dependent suburbs of North America. By comparing their own childhood in London, Ontario, to their current experiences in Amsterdam, the speaker argues that the Dutch city's design and culture enable children to develop autonomy and independence, whereas North American suburbs lack the necessary infrastructure and social norms to allow children to thrive without excessive parental supervision


I may be biased since I lived in San Jose for a while, but definitely San Jose. Palo Alto sometimes has that small college town thing where everywhere can be unexpectedly busy (like why is a sit down restaurant bar absolutely packed with 22 year olds doing shots? Because the college bars are too full to even enter). San Jose is a little dull, but charming. I’m thinking northside, like around backesto park. Palo Alto’s proximity to both SF and all that state park/open space preserve to the west is really nice, and I think it might stay a bit cooler than San Jose, which occasionally gets toasty, but still, I’d pick SJ.


I've spent an afternoon in downtown Manhattan; it's rather a nice place. The world could use more places like that, preferably close to existing population centers.


Curious how they managed to associate which account/queries belong to which actor/group.


Some principal component analysis probably. The false positive rate is most likely really high in that case.


For the last few months, I am consistently receiving spam calls (on my mobile number) shortly after I left the house regardless of weekday, time etc.

I never thought about the idea that an app can track when I leave my (most frequently) used WiFi and derive from that I left home.


Talking about irrelevant stats, the Raptor can do 3.6 sec pulls all day long. Curious to see the Cybertrucks repeatability here...


+1 and even worse: at 10:55am the sync meeting gets postponed to 12:15pm because the organizer is "stuck in some other important meeting"


At 12:20 the meeting gets cancelled and "we'll sync offline"


Currently trying to buy a Corolla Hybrid (base). The best out-the-door quote I got so far is $28.5k, the MSRP is $23k. So yes, you are looking at almost $30k for the most basic car.


$30k for the highest quality most basic car.

Other brands surely have cheaper basic options, and although I might not recommend going all the way to a Stellantis/GM car, a Ford/Honda/Mazda might be available for less and still be acceptable for quality.


Ford doesn’t even sell sedans anymore!


Wow, I stand corrected. Cheapest Ford is $30k+. I thought they would still have the Focus/Taurus still available.


Ford's business is selling as many F150's as possible. Due to the way fuel efficiency regulations work in this country it makes sense for them to axe sedans from their lineup and replace them with large cars that can be classified as trucks because their more fuel efficient "trucks" can counteract the fine they would get from selling fuel inefficient F150s.


> Currently trying to buy a Corolla Hybrid (base).

I wanted to buy a Corolla Hybrid, but the wait list was ridiculous, something like 9 months. Toyota has major supply chain issues.

I ended up getting a (non-hybrid) Honda Civic for under $30k. I still had to wait a month though.


Maybe they foresee that the actual electric cars will be on par in the near future and hence focus on being the leader in energy distribution.


Imho MSFT overestimates the loyalty of video game fans to a game franchise vs a console ecosystem. Even if the deal should go through and even if it should result in - let's say - CoD being exclusive to Xbox, I don't think a lot of fans would then switch away from Playstation just for that.


There is a huge number of folks who buy video game consoles to play one or more games from just a few franchises: Call of Duty, FIFA, Madden, and MLB: The Show. Modern Warfare 2, a 2022 remake of a game from 2009, was the 5th best selling video game in the US in April 2023. It was the best selling game in the US last year. Any console getting one of those games as an exclusive would gain an huge upper-hand.

[Edit] NPD source: https://www.npd.com/news/entertainment-top-10/2023/top-10-vi...


> Modern Warfare 2, a 2022 remake of a game from 2009

Was it a remake? I played Modern Warfare (2019) recently and it was a completely different game than Modern Warfare (2007). Different plot, characters, settings and levels.


Definitely a fair point. I guess I'd call it a "remake" the way that "Final Fantasy VII Remake" used the term. "What is a 'remake?'" is a question I've heard a lot of games media ask over the last couple of years, and it seems to cover a whole spectrum of approaches.


Have to completely disagree with you.

I buy a console purely to play specific games.

I bought a XBox360/Wii/Switch/PS4/PS4Pro/PS5 specifically because some specific game I wanted to play was on that console. If something was cross-platform I'd obviously buy/play it on something I already owned, but, for whatever reason the games I play are mostly exclusives.


I think you're dead wrong about this. It is well known that big games sell consoles. It's why this generation of XBox is struggling against PS5. Also, CoD is big but it's not the only thing in this Activision deal.


> It's why this generation of XBox is struggling against PS5.

I think a big part of a console’s success is how its previous version did. The PS2 wouldn’t sell the way it did if not for the clout/consumer trust from the PS1.

The Xbox Series* line of consoles came after the Xbox One which was an utter PR disaster that handed Sony the generation on a silver platter.

* Horrible naming. You wouldn’t know it was the successor to the Xbox One if no one told you.


That doesn't hold. There is some stickiness but just look how horribly the Wii U did after the superstar success of the Wii, how hard Sony had to push with the PS3 despite the monster success of the PS2, how terrible the Sega Saturn did in North America, etc.


The Wii did well as a fad but most of its buyers just toss it in the closet after the novelty wore off.

The PlayStation 3 was a screw up. It was too expensive and came out late after the 360. It damaged Sony’s reputation somewhat but did alright despite Sony’s misstep IMHO due to the PS2’s clout.

The Saturn … so many mistakes by Sega. Got trounced on price by the PlayStation. Was rushed to market at the last minute to try to beat the PlayStation to the market, resulting in shortages and uneven distribution that piss off retailers and limited launch titles. The earlier launch date also pissed retailers off because they have to adjust floor space and piss launch title developers off because their titles can no longer make the new date and they were banking on the visibility of being a launch title. There was mixed messaging with the launch of the X32, which flopped, relatively close to the Saturn’s launch too which hurt consumer trust. Sega burned a lot of bridges.

All things being equal this generation, the PS4’s tremendous popularity IMHO helped the PS5 pull ahead of the Series X - don’t get me started on the confusingly named cousin system the Series S.


Many a gamer avoided Xbox and Halo because MS; I’ve only every played Halo 1 split screen on OG Xbox.

COD is a fading franchise as-is, and MS has tanked Halo’s rep with recent releases. No reason to believe they can’t screw up COD and still lose to other consoles.

Sony could announce a new SOCOM tomorrow.

Steam on Linux is amazing; package that as a bootable image and consoles become redundant hardware.

Big software business moat building is holding technology back.


It is widely believed that Final Fantasy being exclusive to PS1 hurt both Saturn/N64.

CoD at this point is more like the NFL. There’s more money to make just licensing that thing to Sony than there is to lock in Xbox sales.


Sample size of 1, but I was a kid who begged for a Nintendo so I could play Zelda, then I switched to PlayStation for GTA 3, and then Xbox for Halo.

It’s always been about the games for me. Exclusives really matter.


a strong counter point is simply switch consoles marketshare


How does it hurt the interest of the parks? Doesn't it ultimatley draw the attention to new, upcoming rides and attractions?


It ruins the surprise. If they wanted people to see it they wouldn’t put up facades to block the construction.


Facades are also for preventing passersby from seeing an eyesore. I am sure they know about this, and if they really wanted it to stop they would send one of their umptillion lawyers after them.


I think the people who run the parks know that super fans are a big part of the theme park world and that you can’t keep everything from them. In fact they seem to embrace the super fans and even their rumors.


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