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As someone that doesn't live in the US, this post sounds insane.

It is. Pretty much anyone who actually believes the “millions of illegal immigrants” line is detached from reality.

Are you saying there aren't millions of illegal aliens in the US? Time for a reality check.

>The number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States reached an all-time high of 14 million in 2023

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2025/08/21/u-...

There are millions living in California alone.


This doesn't make any kind of sense. There's plenty of homeless people outside of expensive cities.

What's wrong with being a Luddite?


I don't know if I'm just misremembering but it feels like over the last three years or so the technical knowledge on HN has gone down the toilet.


Could it instead be that less technically inclined people feel more empowered to hang out here?


Maybe that and manipulating technical tools requires far less background knowledge than it did, meaning the definition of “technically inclined” has shifted, as it often does.


"less technically inclined" doesn't mean people can make whatever incorrect claims unchecked like on reddit, where you get banned because you post inconvenient facts in the wrong sub.

And this is exactly why I stopped participating in discussions on reddit and never on LinkedIn. Discussions on HN are so much civil and respectful here

P.S. if the top level comment was indeed posted by a "less technically inclined" person, I hope this is a humbling, positive educational experience, at least that's how I would take it


Most *nix tools have their origins in the ‘70s-80s.

Email as a technology is ancient by today’s standards. SMTP protocol got established in 1982. Even sendmail dates as far back as the ‘70s.


This is a pretty good talk on the history of email: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrGfahzt-4Q



And the earlier technology of homing pigeons goes back even further


It's Reddit type conversation often


I prefer human writers tbh


I prefer home cooked meals, but sometimes a candy bar is nice.


Then the answer isn't to adopt AI it's to unionise.


I don't think they're wilfully misrepresenting the article by listing it's headline, even if you disagree with it.


Not really? That isn't the argument they were making.


Where's the contradiction?


They are been pedantic by pointing out that the set "everyone else" excluding train drivers would still include pilots rather than reading it as intended which would conventionally and implicitly exclude pilots.

It is what it is with some people.


Thanks for trying to help me understand. I'm not sure if I do yet. Can I check my understanding? Did you mean, when you said

> in reality their pay is fair for the responsibility it's everyone else who is underpaid

that train drivers and pilots are fairly paid, whereas everyone else is underpaid?


The "everyone else" is not meant to be read literally.

Many people are well-paid, or even overpaid. CEOs, for instance.

It's just that most people, in most common professions, are underpaid.

It only makes sense to talk about a blanket statement like that being a "contradiction" when someone is attempting to speak in the language of formal logic or detailed argument, not colloquial speech.


That's fine, then the response I was looking for is simply "I didn't mean literally everyone else, I just meant simply 'most people, in most common professions, are underpaid'". That's a perfectly valid point of view.

Then I would have replied that, despite perhaps being true, I don't how it's relevant to the question of whether it's fair to pay train drivers and pilots the same.


You don’t get it because it doesn’t make sense. People’s understanding of money is horrible.



Considering how many of these stickers are about being gay or trans, compromising about expressing yourself sounds pretty grim. I wouldn't want to put that aside to get on with my co-workers.


Like I said in another comment, other coworkers of mine have tried to express themselves through misogynistic or sexually suggestive stickers. I wouldn't suggest having a Diddy sticker or anything right now.

My only point is that the "if someone is offended, that's their problem" attitude is not so black and white. People often use it to justify being an a**hole too. Obviously, gay or trans stickers are not in the category of offensive things. There are things that are appropriate to express, and things that are not. So yeah, sometimes you need to compromise on your self-expression at work because not all of it is appropriate for everyone, you know?


> Obviously, gay or trans stickers are not in the category of offensive things.

It's at least plausible to taxonomize them under either politics or sexuality. Either of which larger categories some might consider categorically offensive or inappropriate.

Yes, I'm also saying that "vote for $PARTY" (categorically; regardless of which party) and anime catgirls are both potentially offensive or inappropriate. Depending on how much of a stick-in-the-mud people in your local environs are.


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