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"I think it continues to be under-appreciated how much of a lead Tesla still has in EVs".

As long as you don't compare them to BYD etc.





as long as you don’t compare them to any car. teslas in 2025 belong in a museum lol

I own tesla s 2014, my neighbour has 2025, same car. tesla x was cool… in 2017. tesla 3 is like a worse looking kia and model y is like if you took tesla 3 and pumped some air in it.


If all you care about is looks, that is. Get out of any other car and you forget you can't just walk away from it and it'll shut itself off and lock the doors. I've had my Tesla driving friends drive my ICE car, and then not even turn off the engine when they go into the store because you don't need to do that with a Tesla.

> Get out of any other car and you forget you can't just walk away from it and it'll shut itself off and lock the doors.

A lot of cars have that. My (gulp) BMW EV for instance. Newer BMW ICE cars too.

But sure, some brands have had problems getting it to work for some dumb reason, recently, even the keyless entry part, which really has been a solved problem since at least the 2010s.


> A lot of cars have that. My (gulp) BMW EV for instance. Newer BMW ICE cars too.

Yeah, the recent BMWs (both EV and ICEVs) have Apple/Android CarKey UWB support, which is much more reliable and precise than Bluetooth.


When my buddy got his first Tesla back in 2018 he had a ICE rental for some reason and he left it running in the driveway all day once on accident.

The complete lack of awareness with which some people operate cars never ceases to amaze me.

lol - quite amazing!

> If all you care about is looks, that is

wrote myself a reminder I need to make sure to spend $90k on the car when I become senile to forget to turn it off


How is a persons behavior a positive feature for a car?

2025 S is the same as your 2014 S? That’s some hilarious cope. Stop lying. You know it’s completely different. Yes, a model S is still a model S. And the F150 is still a pickup truck. Surprise!

2025: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2025/

2014: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2014/

If this was like “find 5 differences game” you’d lose :-)


Are you serious?

New motors, new battery pack architecture, chemistry, etc, new body structure (giga castings), new interior, new facia and body panels, new computer architecture, new door handles. It goes on and on and on. Find me a part on your 2014 that is the same on the 2025. Show it to me in the Tesla parts catalog. It’s online. Should be easy.

Get a grip.


just asked my wife and she said the first thing she looks when she is deciding to buy a car are giga castings and facia and door handles - boom - tesla s ftw ;)

putting a lipstick on a pig, eh? :)

When I bought my S in 2014 people were breaking their necks checking it out, it was the shit - now this car is soooo dated there is no reason to buy 2026 vs. my 2014 (I got new DU, new battery…)

Tesla entire lineup is old outdated cars. Ford has F-150 and then another 50 models to choose from…




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